1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

No Cross Product in higher dimensions?

  1. Sep 14, 2014 #1
    Is there an intuitive reason or proof demonstrating that in general dimensions, there is no direct analogue of the binary cross product that yields specifically a vector?

    I came across Wedge Product as the only alternative, but am just learning linear algebra and don't quite comprehend yet why this isn't exactly considered a regular vector.

    Is it really unknown on how to find a perpendicular vector to any vector in RN?

    Any explanation is greatly appreciated!
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Sep 14, 2014 #2

    Simon Bridge

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member
    2016 Award

    Check the definition of the cross product.

    Note: it is possible to describe a plane surface in n>3 dimensions, and thus to find two vectors in the surface that are not colinear, and thus find the normal vector to the surface via an operation on the two vectors in the surface. Would this count as an n-D analogue for a cross product?

    Well...
    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=526403

    The wedge product is an operation on two vectors ... to see why the result is not a vector, just apply your new-found knowledge of what a vector is and see.

    Check the definition of "perpendicular". Does a 4D vector describe an object for which something can be "perpendicular" ... how does the concept make sense in more than 3D?
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2014
  4. Sep 15, 2014 #3

    WWGD

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    I think it has to see with some special properties of the Hodge dual in dimension 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodge_dual

    Read the paragraph right above 'Extensions' in that page.
     
  5. Sep 15, 2014 #4
    In three dimensions you can pick two vectors A and B and ask for a vector C that is perpendicular to both A and B. This vector C is unique up to a sign. (Except in the special case that A and B are collinear).

    This only works in three dimensions. In two or fewer dimensions, there are no vectors perpendicular to both A and B. In four or more dimensions, there are an infinite number of vectors perpendicular to both A and B.
     
  6. Sep 15, 2014 #5

    SteamKing

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

  7. Sep 15, 2014 #6

    pwsnafu

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook




Similar Discussions: No Cross Product in higher dimensions?
  1. Cross Products (Replies: 8)

  2. Cross product (Replies: 3)

  3. The Cross Product (Replies: 4)

Loading...