Pythagorean theorem based on cross product.

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The discussion revolves around the exploration of a proof of the Pythagorean theorem using the cross product of vectors. Participants examine the validity of this approach, considering the implications of avoiding the traditional distance/magnitude formula associated with the theorem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a proof of the Pythagorean theorem based on the cross product, questioning whether this method can be valid without relying on the distance/magnitude formula.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the proof's clarity, noting that the assertion of the length being \(\sqrt{A^2+B^2}\) lacks a clear geometric representation of right triangles.
  • A third participant acknowledges a flaw in the initial proof, admitting the omission of necessary points to define a right triangle.
  • Another participant comments on the foundational nature of the Pythagorean theorem, suggesting that much of mathematics may inherently depend on it, and references historical context regarding the theorem's proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and clarity of the proof presented. There is no consensus on whether the cross product can effectively be used to prove the Pythagorean theorem, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the proof, including the lack of geometric representation and potential dependencies on established mathematical principles.

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I was developing a pythagorean theorem proof based on the cross product of two vectors..Below is my final solution...My problem is I had to get around using the distance/magnitude formula because that is using the pythagorean theorem to prove the pythagorean theorem. But after searching, it may be true that the cross product itself is a generalization of the pythagorean theorem. I'm asking anyone to look at this proof who is real saavy with Linear Algebra and vectors to let me know if cross-product can or cannot be used to prove the pythagorean theorem..My final solution to ascertain the distance of the orthogonal vector, was to use a number line and absolute value based on the standard conventions of the orthogonal vector itself. Thank you for any help?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/202754816/3-d-Cross-Product-Proof-3-Vectors-Orthogonal-Solution
 
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I think asserting the length of X to be [itex]\sqrt{A^2+B^2}[/itex] is fine. It's not immediately clear how you actually proved the pythagorean theorem though, since you haven't drawn any right triangles whose sides and hypotenuse have been calculated.

The statement that |YxZ| = area of parallelogram is far from obvious to me given that you are restricting yourself to never using the pythagorean theorem.
 
The Pythagorean theorem is so fundamental that I would be very surprised if much of math in your proof did not depend on it. I don't know if you have seen the proof of his theorem, but it is very basic. He proved it before the number system was even a system. Fractions were not understood. He thought it was a religion.

I can't resist recommending this for your Pythagorean entertainment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1E7I7_r3Cw
 

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