No meaning to go backwards in time

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The discussion centers on the concept of time as a dimension similar to space, arguing that it is meaningless to think of moving backwards in time, just as one cannot move backwards in space. Participants debate the semantics of "forward" and "backward," emphasizing that while one can return to a starting point in space, this does not equate to moving backwards. The conversation touches on the implications of time travel, with references to general relativity and closed timelike curves, suggesting that while theoretically possible, time travel raises significant paradoxes. Some participants advocate for a view that time is a quantum concept, influenced by entropy and observer states. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the complexity of understanding time and its relationship to motion and causality.
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nealh149 said:
Flatland, you are treating this problem like the universe has 6 spatial dimensions. This isn't the case there are only three. You can move positive and negative in each of these directions. YOu're acting like moving negative along the horizontal is like moving positive in a totally separate dimension.
I don't understand what you mean. I am not treating the universe as having six dimension. A dimension by definition is a plane that is completely perpendicular to all the other planes. Ok, not exactly the greatest definition but you get the point.
 
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If you move a clock's hand forward half a turn, do you not go back in time by moving the clock hand back half a turn.

ie. you have returned the system to it's original position.

I guess this is more a case of what frame you measure time from.

In a lot of dynamical systems you can usually reverse time by setting t=-t. This means that you can go backwards in examine how the system was in the past - even though you only know the present.

In some systems, eg. those which depend on the past - modeled by delay differential equations - you can only do this time reversal when the system is locked to some predictive path, eg. a periodic oscillation.

To this effect, I would say that, in real life, if the future is somehow determined by what happened in the past - in a nontrivial way, you won't be able to go back in time.

Or am I ranting into a Friday philosophical discussion here...
 
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Well, I for one believe there are many reasons why you can't go back in time. This is just one of them.
 

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