No Real Solutions to System of Equations

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The discussion revolves around a system of equations involving variables \(a\), \(b\), \(c\), and \(d\). Participants explore whether this system has any real solutions, focusing on the implications of the equations and potential mathematical approaches to demonstrate the absence of real solutions.

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  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the system of equations has no real solutions based on the structure of the equations.
  • One participant proposes a solution using matrix algebra, suggesting that the determinant of a constructed matrix indicates that the variables cannot all be real.
  • Another participant acknowledges the contributions of others and expresses appreciation for their engagement with the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There appears to be a general agreement among participants that the system does not have real solutions, but the discussion includes different approaches and reasoning that have not been fully resolved or universally accepted.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify all assumptions regarding the variables or the implications of the matrix algebra used, leaving some aspects of the reasoning open to interpretation.

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Show that the following system of equations have no real solutions:

$a^2+bd=0$

$c^2+bd=0$

$ab+bc=1$

$ad+cd=1$
 
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anemone said:
Show that the following system of equations have no real solutions:

$a^2+bd=0$

$c^2+bd=0$

$ab+bc=1$

$ad+cd=1$

from 1st 2 equations we have

$a^2=c^2$

so a = c or a = -c

now for a = c

we have

2ab = 1 and 2ad = 1 so bd and d both are same

so $a^2 + b^2 = 0$ from 1st equation so a = b = 0

hence a = b = c= d = 0 so we have contradiction in 3rd relation

if a = -c

then

ab + bc = 0 which is contradicton to 3rd relation

hence in both cases no solution
 
Solution using matrix algebra:
[sp]Let $A = \begin{bmatrix} a&b \\ d&c \end{bmatrix}$. Then $A^2 = \begin{bmatrix} a^2 + bd&ab+bc \\ ad+dc&c^2+bd \end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} 0&1 \\ 1&0 \end{bmatrix}$. The determinant of $A^2$ is $-1$, so the determinant of $A$ is $\pm i$. That is not real, so $a,b,c,d$ cannot all be real.[/sp]
 
Hi kaliprasad and Opalg!

Very well done(Yes) and thanks for participating to this challenge!:)
 

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