Can Wireless Communication Be Achieved Without EMF?

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SUMMARY

This discussion explores the feasibility of wireless communication without electromagnetic fields (EMF), highlighting alternatives such as sound waves and visible light communication. Participants mention neutrino beams as a theoretical option, though current limitations prevent significant data transmission. Acoustic couplers are cited as historical examples of using sound for digital data transfer, while the potential of quantum tunneling for communication remains speculative. Overall, the conversation emphasizes that all communication is fundamentally analog at the physical level.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electromagnetic fields (EMF) and their role in wireless communication
  • Familiarity with acoustic waves and their application in digital data transmission
  • Knowledge of visible light communication technologies
  • Basic concepts of quantum tunneling and its implications for data transfer
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of acoustic couplers and their historical significance in data transmission
  • Explore visible light communication (VLC) technologies and their applications
  • Investigate the theoretical aspects of quantum tunneling in communication systems
  • Study alternative wireless signaling methods such as semaphore and Aldis lamps
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This discussion is beneficial for telecommunications engineers, researchers in wireless communication technologies, and anyone interested in exploring non-traditional methods of data transmission.

Theldiot
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Is there any theoretical room for wireless communication that does not require EMF and would be unhindered by RF blocking materials or Faraday cages?
 
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Hi. How about sound?
 
Hahaha That's embarrassing. I was wondering about digital communication, though.
 
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A neutrino beam could do the job. They aren't stopped by Faraday cages or RF blocking materials.
 
However, at this stage a neutrino beam can't transmit a significant amount of data. Is there anything that could?
 
Not that I'm aware of. But maybe others know. Good questions.
 
Theldiot said:
Hahaha That's embarrassing. I was wondering about digital communication, though.
Digital or analog has to do with your message encoding/decoding scheme, not the medium of transmission. You could certainly use acoustic waves digitally.
 
Theldiot said:
I was wondering about digital communication, though.
That's not a meaningful distinction - all communication is analog at the physical level.

For an example of sound used to carry digital data... Google for "acoustic coupler"... actually quite dangerous to use, as the buzzing sound of 110 bps traffic sounded enough like the distress cries of a wounded Diplodocus to attract the attention of any large carnivore in the area... I only narrowly escaped once when a raging T Rex tore my data shack apart in search of a meal.
 
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Nugatory said:
That's not a meaningful distinction - all communication is analog at the physical level.

For an example of sound used to carry digital data... Google for "acoustic coupler"

That's incredibly interesting. Do you know the sound level acoustic couplers would make when they were used for cordless phones?
 
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Is electromagnetic radiation in the visible frequency range, i.e. light, acceptable? Modulating light to carry a digital signal is well-established technology.
 
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jtbell said:
Is electromagnetic radiation in the visible frequency range, i.e. light, acceptable? Modulating light to carry a digital signal is well-established technology.

I see. But visible light communication, I assume, would be completely blocked by opaque matter. Correct?

Would it be theoretically possible for quantum tunnelling to enable digital communication? And could this be used over long distances?
 
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Theldiot said:
Would it be theoretically possible for quantum tunnelling to enable digital communication? And could this be used over long distances?

Quantum tunneling is a random event. There is no way to know precisely when it's going to happen, though you can assign some probability to it.
 
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Dale said:
Digital or analog has to do with your message encoding/decoding scheme, not the medium of transmission. You could certainly use acoustic waves digitally.
Ahh, what's old is new again:
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For those too young to remember, the thing on the left is called a "telephone" and the thing on the right is a "modem" - used for converting audio signals to data and back.
 
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That's no phone! How do you text?

There were various methods of wireless signalling that do this: semaphore, Aldis lamps, etc.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
semaphore, Aldis lamps, etc.
Native American smoke signals...
 

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