Nonconducting concentric cylinders

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The problem involves a long solid nonconducting cylinder with a uniform volume charge density, surrounded by a concentric nonconducting cylindrical shell. The task is to determine the electric field at various distances from the center of the cylinders.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law to find the electric field in different regions defined by the radii of the cylinders. There are questions about whether to consider the electric field inside or outside the inner cylinder and how the surrounding shell affects the electric field.

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Some participants are exploring the implications of the charge density and the geometry of the cylinders on the electric field calculations. There is a recognition that the electric field should be considered in the context of the radial direction and the assumptions about the materials involved.

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Participants note that the inner cylinder and the surrounding shell are both nonconducting and have the same charge density, which may influence the calculations. There is also uncertainty about the direction of the electric field and how to approach the calculations for different regions.

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Homework Statement



A very long solid nonconducting cylinger of radius R1 is uniformly charged with a charge density of volume charge densty pE. It is surrounded by a concentric cylinder tube of inner radius R2 and outer radius R3.

Determine the electric field as a function of the distance R from the center of the cylinders for:
a) 0 < R < R1
b) R1 < R < R2
c) R2 < R < R3
d) R > R3
e) If the charge density pE = 15 uC/m3 and R1 = 1/2R2 = 1/3R3 = 5.0 cm, plot E as a function of R from R = 0 and R = 20.0 cm. Assume the cylinders are very long compared to R3

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Homework Equations



Gauss's law

Flux = E * A = pE / e_0 * [Volume of cylinder]

The Attempt at a Solution



So part a). R is between zero and the radius of the inner cylinder.

flux = pE/e_0 [pi*R^2*l]

flux = E * Curved Area = E * 2*pi*R1*l

pE/e_0 [pi*R^2*l] = E * 2 * pi * R1 * l

E = (pE * R^2)/ e_0 * 2R1

Am I on the right track? I did this as if I was calculating the electric field outside the cylinder. Should I have done it for the electric field inside the cylinder?
 
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Also, how do I know if the electric field is directed towards the circular surface of the cylinders or to the curved part?
 
Okay, so I think I would calculate a) as if it was a radius enclosed in the small cylinder. I'm assume the E is perpendicular to the curved surface. I'm not sure how to determine if the field is perpendicular to the curved surface or the flat circles.

b) I would calculate it as a radius outside the small cylinder.

When calculating a) and b) does the shell surrounding the cylinder have any affect on the E of the solid cylinder?

c) I am a bit confused on this part - The radius is inside the cylindrical shell that is surrounding the solid cylinder. So am I calculating the electric field within the shell? How do I calculate that?

d) The radius surrounds the entire structure (shell and solid cylinder). Same with part c) how am I supposed to calculate this?
 
Normally, for this kind of problem, it is assumed that you are calculating the field very far from either end of the cylinder, so that the electric field (where it is non-zero) is purely in the radial direction. (The radial direction is perpendicular to the common axis of the cylinders.)

I would guess that the concentric cylinder tube of inner radius R2 and outer radius R3 is made of a conducting material. I suppose it could also be made of the same material (with the same charge density) as the inner cylinder.

To answer your very last question: The interior of the inner cylinder has r values in the range; 0 < r < R1, so you need to find the field here also.
 
The shell is shown to be nonconducting and equal in charge density.
 

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