Not really understanding Gravitational Potential energy or Kepler's laws?

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The discussion revolves around gravitational potential energy and Kepler's laws, particularly focusing on the mathematical aspects of these concepts as they relate to a test preparation scenario. The original poster expresses confusion regarding specific formulas and their applications in a problem involving the average distance between the Sun and Venus.

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  • Participants discuss various formulas related to gravitational forces and potential energy, questioning how they relate to Kepler's laws. The original poster seeks clarification on the derivation of specific equations and their application to a problem involving celestial mechanics.

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Some participants have provided references and suggested formulas, while others have offered insights into the relationships between the variables involved. There appears to be ongoing exploration of the concepts without a clear consensus on the understanding of the material.

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The original poster mentions a test approaching soon, indicating a time constraint that may affect their ability to grasp the material fully. There is also a request for additional reading resources to aid in understanding.

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Hey, I have a test tommorow and I don't really understand gravitational potential energy or kepler's laws. It's not really a theory test, it's the math aspect, but I still don't understand it. I know of the formulas such as Fg=Gm1m2/r^2, Eg=Gm1m2/r, Ek=1/2 mv^2, and I think that's all. But somehow in the answer book for this question they come up with the equation C=GM/4(pie)^2 and C=r^3/T^2?

This is the question if it helps: Using the mass of the sun and the period of revolution of Venus around the Sun, determine the average Sun-Venus distance.

Also, I'm not really understanding a couple other questions as well, if anyone had something I could read that would help me out for this, it'd be amazing, thanks.
 
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mayodt said:
Hey, I have a test tommorow and I don't really understand gravitational potential energy or kepler's laws. It's not really a theory test, it's the math aspect, but I still don't understand it. I know of the formulas such as Fg=Gm1m2/r^2, Eg=Gm1m2/r, Ek=1/2 mv^2, and I think that's all. But somehow in the answer book for this question they come up with the equation C=GM/4(pie)^2 and C=r^3/T^2?

This is the question if it helps: Using the mass of the sun and the period of revolution of Venus around the Sun, determine the average Sun-Venus distance.

Also, I'm not really understanding a couple other questions as well, if anyone had something I could read that would help me out for this, it'd be amazing, thanks.

I'm not much help on Kepler's Laws, but the wikipedia entry looks to have some good info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler's_laws

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F = Gmm/r^2 for gravitational potential energy
F= mv/r = mr\omega^{2}for centripetal force.
\omega = 2\pi/T

Reshuffle them.
 
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only third law of kepler has mathematical questions at basic level
T^2 \propto R^3
tell me if you need its derivation

for Gravitational potential ...

the GPE of 2 masses m1,m2 separated by r is U = - \frac{Gm_1m_2}{r}

for more help please write back ...
 

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