Obama's Speech: Dysfunctional Three Ring Circus

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The discussion revolves around reactions to a speech given by President Obama, focusing on political dysfunction and the perceived ineffectiveness of Congress. Participants express their frustrations regarding political behavior, the impact on the economy, and the interruption of personal activities, such as watching a cooking show. The conversation touches on themes of partisanship, economic concerns, and the role of politicians.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants agree with Obama's characterization of politics as a "dysfunctional three ring circus," expressing a desire for more effective governance.
  • Others question the interruption of personal activities by political announcements, highlighting a sense of frustration with the timing and nature of political discourse.
  • Several participants express a belief that politicians prioritize their interests over those of the public, suggesting a disconnect between elected officials and constituents.
  • There are mentions of the impact of political decisions on small businesses and young people entering the job market, with concerns about the consequences of ongoing political gamesmanship.
  • Some participants argue that the presence of new tea party members in Congress complicates bipartisan efforts and hinders meaningful progress on issues like debt reduction.
  • Humor is used by participants to cope with frustrations, with references to alcohol as a means of escape from political discourse.
  • A few participants express support for Obama's proposals while criticizing the lack of cooperation from certain factions within Congress.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express frustration with the current political climate, but there is no consensus on solutions or the effectiveness of proposed actions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the motivations and actions of politicians.

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Some participants reference specific political figures and events, indicating a dependence on current political dynamics and individual interpretations of the speech. There are also expressions of personal sentiment that may not reflect broader political realities.

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I have to agree with what he said tonight, even though he interrupted my cooking show.

Politicians need to stop the showboating and do what is in the best interest of the country.

He's right, it is a dysfunctional three ring circus.
 
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What in the world did I miss that would dare interrupt Evos cooking show?
 
I at least would prefer a functional three ring circus. It is also more of a two ring circus IMO.
 
Pengwuino said:
What in the world did I miss that would dare interrupt Evos cooking show?
This is highly unusual, since when can the speaker of the House interrupt national TV? :bugeye:

I do not ever remember anyone but the President being able to interrupt for a special announcement.

Now John Boehner is interrupting TV. :eek:

The end of the world is truly nigh.
 
Are you listing to the GOP response?

edit: Opps. I guess you did.
 
dlgoff said:
Are you listing to the GOP response?
Unfortunately.
 
Evo said:
Unfortunately.

You know what I do when I hear this crap? Head for the fridge for another beer.
 
dlgoff said:
You know what I do when I hear this crap? Head for the fridge for another beer.

"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!"
-Homer Simpson
 
dlgoff said:
You know what I do when I hear this crap? Head for the fridge for another beer.
This is the whole problem in a nutshell. "Presidential speech and Republican response"

We are truly a nation divided at the top with no one that cares about the nation itself. They'd rather screw the people until there is nothing left.

They don't care, they're rich, their money is offshore (most likely) and they have the ability to move to another country.
 
  • #10
MATLABdude said:
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!"
-Homer Simpson
As my microbrewery glass says, "...because without beer, things do not seem to go as well..."

Hey. Maybe the GOP needs to get really drunk. You think that will help?
 
  • #11
Evo said:
This is the whole problem in a nutshell. "Presidential speech and Republican response"

We are truly a nation divided at the top with no one that cares about the nation itself. They'd rather screw the people until there is nothing left.

They don't care, they're rich, their money is offshore (most likely) and they have the ability to move to another country.

Careful Evo. I would hate to see you get banned. :cry:
 
  • #12
dlgoff said:
Hey. Maybe the GOP needs to get really drunk. You think that will help?
I thought that was the problem.

Really, would it kill these people to actually work together for the greater good?

I know, that's a really stupid question, they aren't in this for the good of the nation, politicians only care for themselves.

I'm so disgusted.
 
  • #13
I think I'll just have another beer and try to forget. Before I say something ...
 
  • #14
dlgoff said:
I think I'll just have another beer and try to forget. Before I say something ...
People are free to disagree, I'm just tired of the sandbox level tantrums on both sides.

And I don't even *like* politics.

But they interrupted my cooking show! I was ready for the perfect night.
 
  • #15
Evo said:
People are free to disagree, I'm just tired of the sandbox level tantrums on both sides.

Me too. More beer!
 
  • #16
dlgoff said:
Me too. More beer!
More beer!
 
  • #17
dlgoff said:
I think I'll just have another beer and try to forget. Before I say something ...

Hi Don!

I'm druckn.

And I agree.

:)
 
  • #18
Evo said:
And I don't even *like* politics.

But they interrupted my cooking show! I was ready for the perfect night.

Evo said:
More beer!

Same here. But now it doesn't matter. I've had a six pack. :smile:
 
  • #19
OmCheeto said:
Hi Don!

I'm druckn.

And I agree.

:)

[PLAIN]http://www.wpsot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Beer-Mug-Toast.jpg
 
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  • #20
Despite what the President says, it is obvious to me that Congress will kick the can further down the road and when they do, the President will sign it. The only question left is this: Will it be a beer can? All those in favor say aye.
 
  • #21
Wow! Obama launched the first denial of service attack against Congress in the history of the US. He urged people to contact their Congress members and Congressional websites are crashing.

And the NFL lockout ended.
 
  • #22
Evo said:
I thought that was the problem.

Really, would it kill these people to actually work together for the greater good?

I know, that's a really stupid question, they aren't in this for the good of the nation, politicians only care for themselves.

I'm so disgusted.

Politicians represent people. In a ratio to how much money they represent. More 12 years single malt.
 
  • #23
Rofl. Is there anything that enough beer can't solve? At least for the next 6 months.
 
  • #24
Evo said:
Rofl. Is there anything that enough beer can't solve? At least for the next 6 months.

It solved the NFL lockout. Both sides decided they couldn't afford to go without the money beer companies pay for commercials.
 
  • #25
BobG said:
Wow! Obama launched the first denial of service attack against Congress in the history of the US. He urged people to contact their Congress members and Congressional websites are crashing.

And the NFL lockout ended.
:smile:
 
  • #26
beer is not cost-effective. i think i may go buy a bottle of two-buck chuck, or one of those newfangled wineskins in the cardboard box.
 
  • #27
I have to agree in principle to every point of Obama's speech (a rarity, since there are few politicians that I can fall in line with). We need to get our financial house in order ASAP, so that we don't end up paying more interest (thanks to a lower bond rating). We also need a solution that doesn't put us right back here a few months down the road.

We can't allow party politics to jerk us around and threaten our economy every few months. Small businesses and young people trying to enter the job market are going to get killed if the GOP wants to keep playing such games for political ends. I don't think the high mucky-mucks of their party care who gets hurt, but I do.
 
  • #28
dlgoff said:
[PLAIN]http://www.wpsot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Beer-Mug-Toast.jpg[/QUOTE]

hic!

[URL]http://www.europa.com/~garry/scienceandbeer.JPG[/URL]

Sorry!

Your glasses, and my glass coincided there for a moment, in a cosmic, ... hic!.

hic

:redface:

Ok. Time for bed. :zzz:

:smile:
 
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  • #29
turbo-1 said:
I don't think the high mucky-mucks of their party care who gets hurt, but I do.

Boehner and Obama could have cut a $4 trillion debt reduction deal. The problem lies with the new tea partiers in Congress. Of course Obama said that. If you want to read the short version of Obama's speech, just read my posts over the last week in the 14th amendment thread. :biggrin:

Boehner can't control his wild pack. So now, because of the tea party, instead of real progress, we will probably get a meaningless kick of the can at best.
 
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  • #30
Excuse my frustration. I'm from the radical middle. :biggrin:
 

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