Obesity and health - pointer to a way to reduce costs?

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The discussion centers around the economic implications of obesity on healthcare costs in the United States, particularly in relation to a hypothetical scenario where the population adopts healthier lifestyles. Participants explore various assumptions about BMI, healthcare spending, and potential savings from reduced obesity-related illnesses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a model where the average BMI of New York residents is assumed to be optimal at 22, with a distribution that includes outliers, and questions the potential reduction in healthcare costs from this scenario.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the actual numbers but notes that researchers often use the cost of obesity-related illnesses to justify funding for obesity research.
  • Multiple participants highlight the difficulty in finding comprehensive data to estimate healthcare savings if everyone adopted a healthy lifestyle, referencing various studies and statistics on healthcare spending related to obesity.
  • One participant speculates that a healthy lifestyle could potentially halve healthcare costs, estimating a reduction of about $1 trillion based on current spending figures.
  • Concerns are raised about the economic impact on jobs in the fast food industry versus potential job growth in the fitness sector as a result of lifestyle changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact potential savings from reduced obesity-related healthcare costs, and multiple competing views regarding the implications of lifestyle changes on the economy and healthcare expenditures remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in available data and the complexity of isolating obesity-related healthcare costs from other factors, such as genetic predispositions and unrelated health issues.

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I caught the tail end of a news item, something about 25% of New York (city? state?) residents being obese (presumably including whatever is more than obese)*, and that got me thinking.

Take all the research results on health, nutrition, etc, and assume a New York population that has an average BMI of 22 (the optimal, right?), with a sigma about the mean of 2 (or 3), and some modest number of 'outliers' (various pathologies, etc - people with essentially zero control over their way-off-the-mean BMIs). Assume a similar distribution re healthy lifestyles (diet, exercise, no smoking, moderate alcohol consumption, etc, etc, etc), and a similar number of 'outliers'.

Plug in reasonable values for the cost of treating illnesses, accidents, prudent screening (breast cancer, colon cancer, ...), etc.

Assume a competitive market (pharmaceuticals, health care providers, etc).

From the current ~17% of GDP that US spends on health care (broadly defined), how great would the drop be?

* I think I also heard that this has more than doubled in just a decade or two ...
 
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:smile: I have no idea what the numbers might be. I'm sure someone has at least guesstimated this at some time, since reduction of costs associated with obesity related illnesses is one of the arguments people studying the mechanisms of obesity and appetite regulation use to justify getting funding for their research. Or maybe they just toss around costs of healthcare for obesity-related illnesses without really sorting out the cases of those illnesses directly due to obesity vs those due to unrelated causes (i.e., genetic predisposition). It's not hard, though, to at least hand-wave that if we eliminated the illnesses directly attributed to obesity that could be treated or even cured simply by losing weight and/or maintaining a healthy weight, we'd see a reduction in health care costs. I'm just not sure how much of a reduction.
 
I think it is difficult to find sufficient information in one spot to make an estimate on the savings of health care, if everyone adopted a 'healthy' lifestyle.

http://win.niddk.nih.gov/statistics/#econ
*A recent study estimated annual medical spending due to overweight and obesity (BMI >25) to be as much as $92.6 billion in 2002 dollars—9.1 percent of U.S. health expenditures.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9545015
Current [1998] estimates of the economic cost of obesity in the United States.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/topics/obesity/calltoaction/references.htm


Apparently the US spent about $2.25 trillion on health care in 2007 or about ~16% of the GDP.

From fast facts at KFF.org - http://facts.kff.org/?CFID=33132100&CFTOKEN=43374458
Health spending in the United States averaged $7,026 per person in 2006, totaling $2.1 trillion, or 16% of our nation's economy, up from 7.2% of GDP in 1970 and 12.3% of GDP in 1990

Perhaps with a healthy lifestyle (for all), we could reduce health care costs by 1/2 or ~ $1 trillion.


Interestingly - The top 1% of the U.S. population was responsible for 23% of health care spending in 2005 - from fast facts at KFF.org
 
Astronuc said:
I think it is difficult to find sufficient information in one spot to make an estimate on the savings of health care, if everyone adopted a 'healthy' lifestyle.

http://win.niddk.nih.gov/statistics/#econ


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9545015
Current [1998] estimates of the economic cost of obesity in the United States.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/topics/obesity/calltoaction/references.htm


Apparently the US spent about $2.25 trillion on health care in 2007 or about ~16% of the GDP.

From fast facts at KFF.org - http://facts.kff.org/?CFID=33132100&CFTOKEN=43374458


Perhaps with a healthy lifestyle (for all), we could reduce health care costs by 1/2 or ~ $1 trillion.


Interestingly - The top 1% of the U.S. population was responsible for 23% of health care spending in 2005 - from fast facts at KFF.org
Thanks everyone.

Astronuc, I think those estimates are conservative, perhaps very conservative.

FWIW, I recall reading that the % of GDP devoted to health care in the US is ~2x that of the next highest developed economy (Germany?), and the 'bang for bucks' is even worse (e.g. life expectancy at birth is lower in the US than almost every other developed economy). Further, although overweight/obesity trends are comparable across many (but not all?) developed economies, the US leads the pack by a long way.

But that the US system is stupendously inefficient, by almost every sensible metric, is not news.

What may be news is just how huge the incremental impact on total health care expenditure of 'unhealthy lifestyles' (defined broadly) will be.

And perhaps there's a finding of relevance to economists too: consumers are anything but rational, at least when it comes to their own health and well-being ...
 
Hey, be careful there. You're going to cause a lot of fast food "restaurant" workers to lose their jobs. But I guess there'll be a fairly equivalent number of new openings in the growing exercise/Gym industry... o:)
 

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