Undergrad Obtain simultaneous eigenfunctions?

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The discussion centers on the compatibility of the Hamiltonian (H) and momentum (P) operators, established by their commutation relation [H, P] = 0, allowing for simultaneous eigenfunctions. It is noted that if two observables commute, a simultaneous set of eigenfunctions can be found, leading to the inquiry about the form of these eigenfunctions for H and P. The proposed eigenfunctions are represented as u_{n,m}(x), with a suggestion that the spectrum may not be continuous. The conversation also touches on expressing a generic wave function as a superposition of these eigenstates, particularly in the context of a 1D free particle, where certain combinations do not yield simultaneous eigenfunctions. The discussion concludes with the implication that if the Hamiltonian depends on position, H and P will not commute, complicating the eigenfunction relationship.
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Let's consider two observables, H (hamiltonian) and P (momentum).

These operators are compatible since [H,P] = 0.

Let's look at the easy to prove rule:
1: "If the observables F and G are compatible, that is, if there exists a simultaneous set of eigenfunctions of the operators F and G, then these operators must commute; [F , G] = 0."

This can be turned around to yield,
2: " If the operators F and G commute, then it is possible to find a simultaneous set of eigenfunctions."

How would the simultaneous eigenfunctions look like for H and P? Would it be something on matrix form?

Or is the following functions simply the "simultaneous eigenfunctions":

$$\hat{H} u_{n,m}(x) = E_n u_{n,m}(x)$$
$$\hat{P} u_{n,m}(x) = P_m u_{n,m}(x)$$

where ## \psi(x) = \Sigma_{n,m} C_{n,m} u_{n,m}(x)## ?

And I think the spectrum cannot be continuous right...

EDIT: How would I express a generic wave function as a superposition of the above eigenstates if they are "equivalent"?
 
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If you have a 1d free particle, the eigenfunctions of ##\hat{p}## are like ##Ae^{ikx}## with ##A## and ##k## some real-valued constants. These are all eigenfunctions of ##\hat{H}##. The set of eigenfunctions of ##\hat{H}## also contains functions like ##Ae^{ikx} + Be^{-ikx}## which are not eigenfunctions of ##\hat{p}## because the sign of the 1d momentum is uncertain.

If you have a Hamiltonian operator that also depends on position ##\hat{x}## , then the ##\hat{H}## and ##\hat{p}## will not commute.
 
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