Particle in the box eigenfunctions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the eigenfunctions of a particle in a one-dimensional box, specifically focusing on the energy eigenfunctions derived from the Schrödinger equation and their relationship to the linear momentum operator. Participants explore the implications of these eigenfunctions, the application of various operators, and the nature of position eigenfunctions in quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the energy eigenfunctions ##\Psi(x) = \sqrt{\frac 2L} \sin(n\pi x/L)## are not simultaneous eigenfunctions of the linear momentum operator ##\hat{p}##.
  • There is a proposal to apply the momentum operator ##-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}## to the energy eigenfunctions to find linear momentum eigenfunctions, though some participants argue that this does not yield valid momentum eigenfunctions.
  • One participant suggests hypothesizing that linear momentum eigenfunctions take the form of ##e^{ikx}##, which leads to a discussion about the relationship between energy and momentum eigenvalues.
  • Another participant raises the question of the position eigenfunctions of the position operator ##\hat{x}##, suggesting they may be represented by the delta function ##\delta(x-x_0)##.
  • There is a discussion about the uncertainty principle, noting that while energy can be known precisely, the momentum cannot be determined exactly, leading to two possible momentum values with opposite directions.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether the delta function represents the position eigenfunctions specific to the particle in the box, noting that eigenfunctions may depend on the potential involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the energy eigenfunctions are not also eigenfunctions of the linear momentum operator. However, there is disagreement regarding the specifics of the position eigenfunctions and whether they are unique to the particle in the box scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the eigenfunctions of operators can depend on the physical situation, particularly the potential ##V(x)##, but the mathematical nature of the eigenfunctions for a given operator remains constant.

  • #61
Hello.
The Hamiltonian operator ##\hat H= \frac {\hat p^2} {2m}+ \hat V(x)## is specific to the problem and physical system under study. Its specificity is tied to the potential energy ##V(x)## which varies from problem to problem. The kinetic energy operator ##\hat H= \frac {\hat p^2} {2m}## remains the same for every type of problem.

As far as finding the eigenstates of different operators for a specific problem, I would say that the eigenvalue equation of a specific operator, to find its eigenstates, is the same for all different physical problems. What changes in each problem are the applied boundary conditions. Different problems will have different energy eigenstates or momentum eigenstates or angular momentum eigenstates not because the eigenvalue equations in each problem (they always have the form ##\hat A |\Psi> = a |\Psi>## where ##\hat A## is a any Hermitian operator) are different but because the boundary conditions that are imposed are different, correct?

Only the energy eigenvalue equation ##\hat H |\Psi> = E |\Psi>## seems to naturally arise directly from Schrödinger equation once we set ##V(x)=0## in the regions of space where that is applicable. The applications of BCs will determine which type of energy eigenfunctions will spur out from this eigenvalue equation.

The eigenvalue equations for other operators don't arise the same way and are just considered as the starting point for finding the respective eigenfunctions...
 

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