On derivatives of higher order

In summary: Assuming that the nth derivative of f is continuous on [a,b], then the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. derivatives are also continuous on [a,b].
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let's assume that f(t) is a real function on [a,b], n is a positive integer
(n-1)th derivative of f is continuous on [a,b], (n)th derivative exists for all t in (a,b)

1. Then can we say that (n-2)th derivative of f is continuous on [a,b]?
2. (n-2)th derivative of f is defined on a and b?
 
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If a function g has a derivative g', what do you know about the continuity of g?
 
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statdad said:
If a function g has a derivative g', what do you know about the continuity of g?

if g is differentiable on (a,b), it is continuous on (a,b)
thus in the same manner we can say that (n-2)th derivative of f is continuous on (a,b)
but what i want to know is whether (n-2) derivative of f is continuous on a and b
 
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You seem to have missed the point of statdad comment. Let g = (n-2) derivative of f. Your assumption is that g' exists and is continuous. Therefore g must be continuous.
 
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Saying that f is differentiable on an interval does NOT mean the derivative is continuous on that interval. For example [itex]f(x)= x^2 sin(1/x)[/itex] if [itex]x\ne 0[/itex], f(0)= 0, then it is easy to show that f(x) is continuous for all x. As long as x is not 0, that deriviative is [itex]f'(x)= 2xsin(1/x)+ x^2(-1/x^2)cos(1/x)= 2xsin(1/x)- cos(1/x)[/itex]. If x= 0, we get the derivative from the formula: [itex]\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{h^2 sin(1/h)}{h}= 0[/itex]. So the derivative exists for all x but [itex]\lim_{x\to 0} f'(x)= \lim_{x\to 0} 2xsin(1/x)- cos(1/x)[/itex] which does not exist so derivative exists but is not continuous at x= 0. Since the derivative is not necessarily continuous it is not necessarily differentiable so the second derivative does not necessarily exist.

(One can show, using the mean value theorem, that the derivative, while not necessarily continuous, must satisfy the "intermediate value property" so at a point where the limit exists but is not continuous it must be because the limit [itex]\lim_{x\to a}f'(x)[/itex] must not exist.
 
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if nth derivative of f at t (where t is in (a,b)) is defined, then this means that (n-1)th derivative of f is differentiable at t.
since (n-1)th derivative of f is differentiable at t, (n-1)th derivative of f is continuous at t.
In the same manner, we can argue that (n-2)th, (n-3)th... 1st derivative of f is differentiable at t and continuous at t.

but what i want to know is whether 1st, 2nd...(n-2)th derivative is defined on endpoints a and b
given that f is defined on [a.b] and (n-1)th derivative of f is continuous on [a,b]
 

1. What are derivatives of higher order?

Derivatives of higher order, also known as higher derivatives, are the derivatives of a function that have been differentiated multiple times. They represent the rate of change of the rate of change of the original function.

2. How are derivatives of higher order calculated?

Derivatives of higher order are calculated by applying the derivative rules repeatedly. For example, to find the second derivative, we apply the derivative rule again to the first derivative. This process can be repeated to find higher derivatives.

3. What is the significance of derivatives of higher order?

Derivatives of higher order have several applications in mathematics and the sciences. They can be used to find the maximum and minimum values of functions, determine the concavity of graphs, and solve optimization problems.

4. Are there any limits to how many times a function can be differentiated?

Technically, a function can be differentiated an infinite number of times. However, in practical applications, we usually only consider derivatives up to a certain order, depending on the complexity of the problem.

5. How do derivatives of higher order relate to the original function?

The relationship between derivatives of higher order and the original function can be seen through the Taylor series expansion. This expansion expresses the original function as a sum of its derivatives, where the higher order derivatives represent the curvature of the function at a given point.

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