On Introducing a Nano-Planet into an Existing Solar System

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical introduction of a nano-planet, referred to as "Bob," into our solar system. Participants explore the potential changes to Bob's orbit over time, particularly in relation to its proximity to Jupiter and other celestial bodies, such as Ceres and asteroids in the asteroid belt. The scope includes theoretical implications of orbital dynamics and gravitational interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that Bob's orbit would likely change over time, potentially leading to it becoming a moon of Jupiter if it were close enough.
  • Others suggest that gravitational influences from Jupiter, as well as interactions with Ceres and large asteroids in the asteroid belt, would also affect Bob's trajectory.
  • One participant notes that friction could play a role in the orbital changes over hundreds or thousands of years.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Bob's orbit would change over time due to gravitational influences, but the specifics of how and to what extent remain contested.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or physical details regarding the exact mechanisms of orbital change, nor does it clarify the assumptions about the nature of friction in space.

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Thanks again to all who participated in the Hand Grenade in Solar Orbit discussion. Here's a related question that was prompted in my mind from that discussion:

Suppose we could magically insert a new nano-planet (we'll call it "Bob") into our existing solar system. Let's suppose that:

  1. Bob is 1/1000th the mass of the earth
  • Bob's orbit is in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter (to be consistent with the hand grenade scenario)

  • Bob's orbit is roughly perpendicular to the general plane of the solar system.

  • Bob's velocity is what we would expect for an object in that orbit.

QUESTIONS: If these were the conditions of the orbit into which we magically introduced Bob, should we expect to see changes to Bob's orbit over time? Would Bob eventually end up orbiting in or near the plane in which the other planets orbit?

Thanks again for your willingness to discuss such topics with a novice who is trying to learn!
 
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I think it probably would, I mean if it were closer to Jupiter by a couple million miles than it would most likely (over hundreds or thousands of years) drift over to Jupiter to become it's moon.
 
SpinellTymon said:
I think it probably would, I mean if it were closer to Jupiter by a couple million miles than it would most likely (over hundreds or thousands of years) drift over to Jupiter to become it's moon.

Thanks only to friction, I should note.
 
I would say it is likely. In addition to Jupiter, it would have to worry about that pesky dwarf planet Ceres and large asteroids in the asteroid belt that it is going to travel through.
 

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