Open cover and Finite Subcover

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This discussion focuses on demonstrating that certain subsets of real numbers are not compact by providing open covers that lack finite subcovers. For the natural numbers (N), the proposed open cover A_n = (n-1/3, n+1/3) is correct, while the alternative [1,n) is also valid as it cannot form a finite subcover. For the set of rational numbers {x in Q: 0<=x<=2}, the correct open cover includes A_0 = (sqrt(2), 3) and A_n = (-1, sqrt(2) - 1/n), illustrating that the density of the real number line prevents a finite subcover due to the behavior of 1/n approaching 0.

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Homework Statement



Show that each subset of R is not compact by describing an open cover for it that has no finite subcover.

b.) N (natural numbers)
The correct solution for this is A_n = (n-1/3, n+1/3) for all n in N. But the answer I came up with is [1,n) for all n in N. Is my answer also correct? For each x in N, there will always be a z in N such that z>x, so therefore the set [1,n) will not have a finite subcover for N.

d.) {x in Q: 0<=x<=2}
Correct solution:
A_0 = (sqrt(2), 3)
A_n = (-1, sqrt(2) - 1/n) for all n in N

I just want to confirm if my understand of this solution is correct. The reason why this works is because 1/n approaches 0 as n approaches infinity, but it never touches 0. Therefore, there will always be a space between sqrt(2)-1/n and sqrt(2). Thus, by density of the real number line, there will be a rational number in that space. Hence, we can never have a finite subcover.

I appreciate your patience. Thank you.

M


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is [1,n) open?
 
also there's no one correct solution to these problems... your reasoning for the 2nd seems good to me
 
lanedance said:
is [1,n) open?

Ah...my mistake. How about (1,n) for all n in N? Is this an open cover of N with no finite subcover for N?

lanedance said:
also there's no one correct solution to these problems... your reasoning for the 2nd seems good to me

Thank you.
 

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