Undergrad Orbital Period In General Relativity

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The discussion focuses on determining the orbital period in General Relativity using the Schwarzschild metric. For circular orbits, the orbital period can be derived from Kepler's Third Law by substituting the Schwarzschild radius as the orbital radius. The areal radius is defined as r = √(A / 4π), where A is the surface area of the 2-sphere around the central mass. Participants clarify the distinction between the Schwarzschild radius and the physical distance from the central mass. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately calculating orbital periods in a relativistic context.
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What is the orbital period in General Relativity using the Schwarzschild metric? In classical mechanics, it is something like
T=2pi(GnM/a3). Where a is the semi-major axis, this is for a small body orbiting a larger one. I think I have an idea but I am not 100% sure. I am interested in an outside observer far away viewing a small particle m in orbit of some mass M.
 
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dsaun777 said:
What is the orbital period in General Relativity using the Schwarzschild metric?
For a circular orbit, it's the Kepler's Third Law expression with the Schwarzschild ##r## plugged in as the orbital radius. Note that this is the case even though ##r## is not the same as the physical distance from the center of mass of the central body.
 
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PeterDonis said:
For a circular orbit, it's the Kepler's Third Law expression with the Schwarzschild ##r## plugged in as the orbital radius. Note that this is the case even though ##r## is not the same as the physical distance from the center of mass of the central body.
Yeah, its the areal radius found by integrating over the radial coordinate from r to rs dr using the metric components related to radial coordinates.
 
dsaun777 said:
Yeah, its the areal radius
Yes, but...

dsaun777 said:
found by integrating over the radial coordinate from r to rs dr using the metric components related to radial coordinates.
...no, that's not what the areal radius is. The areal radius is ##r = \sqrt{A / 4 \pi}##, where ##A## is the surface area of the 2-sphere labeled by ##r## that is centered on the central mass.
 
In this video I can see a person walking around lines of curvature on a sphere with an arrow strapped to his waist. His task is to keep the arrow pointed in the same direction How does he do this ? Does he use a reference point like the stars? (that only move very slowly) If that is how he keeps the arrow pointing in the same direction, is that equivalent to saying that he orients the arrow wrt the 3d space that the sphere is embedded in? So ,although one refers to intrinsic curvature...

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