Origin of Universe: Big Bang Theory

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The discussion revolves around the Big Bang theory and the implications of the universe's expansion on energy levels and density. Participants explore concepts related to the nature of matter, energy loss, and the potential limits of the universe's age and size.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that all existing matter could have originated from a single atom of infinite energy levels, suggesting that as the universe expands, it may be losing energy.
  • Others question whether this implies a maximum possible age for the universe based on energy loss since the Big Bang, and whether this could mean the universe will 'live' forever.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the concepts, indicating a lack of formal training in physics.
  • One participant challenges the idea that the universe loses energy as it expands, suggesting that while energy density decreases, the total energy remains constant.
  • Another participant speculates on the implications of an infinitely large universe, suggesting that energy density would become infinitesimally small and raises questions about the nature of space and vacuum in this context.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for a dynamic state of the universe as it approaches a threshold size, with considerations about the boundaries of the universe and the role of vacuum space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the concepts of energy density and expansion, while others present competing ideas about energy loss and the implications for the universe's future. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge their varying levels of knowledge, with some expressing confusion and uncertainty about the theoretical implications of their ideas. There are references to theoretical laws that may challenge or support the proposed ideas, but these are not fully explored.

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-Bearing in mind i ask this based on a theory of the big bang.

Could all existent matter have been packed into a single atom of infinite energy levels, meaning as the universe 'expands' it is actually losing energy and will eventually be infinitly large and contain no energy?
 
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oh and a further thought, on the same train of thought...
Does this mean that there is a maximum possible age to the universe based on the ratio of energy loss from the bigbang - till now - till the energy the universe (as a mass entity) contains is = to 0?. Does this mean the universe will 'live' forever?
 
crap...

I need to read some stuff then i might change what I am confused about - BTW I am no physicist or anything, just a student so there are most definitely a lot of things i am clueless of that will make my suggestion ludacrous or even moronic to the poeple of this forum =D
 
Supernovah said:
-Bearing in mind i ask this based on a theory of the big bang.

Could all existent matter have been packed into a single atom of infinite energy levels, meaning as the universe 'expands' it is actually losing energy and will eventually be infinitly large and contain no energy?

Not without energy but the "absense" of energy. It would be nothing and something at the same time but not in the same spot all at the same time and everything.
 
I bet right now, someone with an expansive knowledge is thinking 'haha this newbie has no idea' and that's the truth, I am just thinking - Put some Theoratical law into this which makes my idea impossible
 
Supernovah said:
-Bearing in mind i ask this based on a theory of the big bang.

Could all existent matter have been packed into a single atom of infinite energy levels, meaning as the universe 'expands' it is actually losing energy and will eventually be infinitly large and contain no energy?

Why would the fact that the universe 'expands' mean that it loses energy? The "energy density" would decrease but the total energy remain the same.
 
Supernovah said:
I bet right now, someone with an expansive knowledge is thinking 'haha this newbie has no idea' and that's the truth, I am just thinking - Put some Theoratical law into this which makes my idea impossible

Do you have any retorts or are you really a newb?

I have my ideas do you have yours?

If you don't then why help waste my time?
 
yes...

Yeah energy density i guess is what I am referring to, though that isn't really a commonly used term i guess... what i mean is if the universe became infinitly large, then the density of energy would be infinitly small, and such the quantity of space with no energy would vastly increase. At the stage where this largness is at its threshold (if there is one) is it possible to distinguish what it is or if there is one?
I would assume at that point, the universe becomes elastic and its boundaries become flexable creating a very similar to 'dynamic' outer boundaries of the Universe. However it would no be able to pass that point and as it gets nearer, more energy is pulling together than the universe has energy to expand.
Edit: this is what would create the dynamic state
added: This space is theoratically a vacuum, how does it exist as a contributing part of the universe?
 
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