Oscillation of bead with gravitating masses

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The discussion revolves around the oscillation of a bead influenced by gravitational potential energy. Participants are exploring the application of Taylor series expansions in the context of gravitational forces and potential energy functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of taking the second derivative of the potential energy and its relation to Taylor series expansions. There is a focus on understanding the implications of these mathematical tools in the context of oscillatory motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the significance of the Taylor series expansion and its connection to harmonic motion. Others are still grappling with the conceptual underpinnings of why these steps are necessary in solving the problem.

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There is an emphasis on the symmetry of the potential function and its implications for the behavior of the system. Participants are also considering the relationship between the potential energy and the characteristics of oscillatory motion, such as the frequency of oscillations.

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Homework Statement
Oscillation of bead with gravitating masses:
A bead of mass m slides without friction on a smooth rod along
the x axis. The rod is equidistant between two spheres of mass M.
The spheres are located at x = 0, y = ± a as shown, and attract the
bead gravitationally.
Find the frequency of small oscillations of the bead about the
origin.
Relevant Equations
U = m * g * h
U = -g * m * M (1/r1 + 1/r2)
U = (-2 * g * m * M) / sqrt (a^2 + x^2)
The relevant equations has been me working out the gravitational potential energy. I was told to take the derivative twice from here, but I do not understand why. It leads into a taylor series expansion, which seems excessive, but I was not informed on any other way to do it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Please post the Taylor series expansion of the potential energy about ##x=0##. It is not excessive. Just show it to second order. Then we'll talk about it and you will the reason for doing it. That's my advice.

On edit: Please use ##G## instead of ##g## in your expressions. Do you see why?
 
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Taking the Taylor series expansion expansion about x = 0 led me to:
-(2 * G * m * M) / a + 1/2 * (2 * G * m * M) / a^3 * x^2
(note - is there a way to show fractions in a more viewable format?)

I also see why I should use G now, I had grown so accustomed to the formula the thought hadn't crossed my mind. Thank you for the correction!
I am realizing the second Taylor series expansion looks like the formula for a spring. I still don't know why it was decided to take the second derivative and use the Taylor series expansion - if I was asked to do this problem myself without any guidance, I don't know how I would arrive to the conclusion that those steps are necessary. What's a good way to think about why the solution is being approached in this way?

Edit since I wasn't super clear: The answer seems clear now. I would just not be able to replicate this process since I do not know why the second derivative is taken or what it represents, and same with the Taylor series expansion.
 
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The potential is an even function, meaning that ##U(-x)=U(x)##. In other words, it it symmetric about the x-axis. Furthermore, because its first derivative vanishes at x = 0, the potential has an extremum (maximum or minimum) at x = 0. Finally, the second derivative is positive, which means that you have a minimum. Thus, for small displacements from x = 0, either to the left or to the right, you get a restoring force that is proportional to the displacement just like a spring-mass system as you already noticed.

So here is the big picture. A Taylor series of an even function (a) has a first order term that vanishes; (b) has a local minimum if the second derivative at the point where the first derivative vanishes is positive. So if you find an even function expressing a potential energy, as in this problem, Taylor expand and see that it has a positive second derivative at ##x_0## where its first derivative vanishes, then you know you have simple harmonic motion about ##x_0##. Furthermore, the frequency of oscillations is related to the value of the second derivative at ##x_0##.
 
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I see - thank you for the help! I understand what you mean the more I read it and apply it to the problem. I have just recently learned Taylor series, so I was a bit confused on its applications. I have a more solid grasp on the derivative part of your explanation, but I'll likely understand Taylor series the more I use them. Thank you again!
 
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You might wish to practice by considering the following application. You have a bead of mass ##m## that slides without friction on a ring of radius ##R##. The ring is oriented so that it has a diameter along the vertical direction, parallel to the acceleration of gravity. Find the period of small oscillations of the mass about the lowest point of the ring.

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The motion of the mass is circular which is the same as if it were attached to a string to form a pendulum. You expect the period to be the same as that of a pendulum of length ##R##. This application shows you how to get the answer using Taylor series without recourse to Newtons's second law.

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The equation of a circle is ##x^2+y^2=R^2.##
The potential energy function is ##U=mgy## and increases as ##y## increases.
 

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