Other definition for fourier series

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The discussion revolves around the definition of Fourier series, exploring different formulations and their implications. Participants examine the correctness of a proposed definition and introduce alternative definitions found in external sources, raising questions about the relationships between parameters in these definitions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a definition of the Fourier series involving coefficients \(a_k\) and \(b_k\) calculated through integrals over a period.
  • Another participant challenges this definition, suggesting that it incorrectly counts the period twice and questions the validity of expanding certain functions using this definition.
  • A third participant expresses confusion regarding the challenge to the initial definition.
  • A later post introduces alternative definitions of Fourier series from Wikipedia, including variations that involve different coefficients and phases, and questions whether the phase terms \(\varphi_n\) and \(\phi_n\) are equivalent.

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Participants do not reach consensus on the correctness of the initial definition of the Fourier series, and multiple competing views regarding the definitions and their parameters remain unresolved.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and relationships between the coefficients and phase terms, as well as the implications of counting periods in the proposed definitions.

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Is correct to define Fourier series like:

[tex]f(t)=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}a_k \cos \left (\frac{2 \pi k t}{T} \right ) + b_k \sin \left (\frac{2 \pi k t}{T} \right )[/tex]

Where ak and bk:

[tex]a_k=\frac{1}{T} \int_{-T}^{+T} f(t) \cos \left (\frac{2 \pi k t}{T} \right ) dt[/tex]

[tex]b_k=\frac{1}{T} \int_{-T}^{+T} f(t) \sin \left (\frac{2 \pi k t}{T} \right ) dt[/tex]

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No. You are counting the period twice.
If this were true, could you expand something like [itex]\cos \left (\frac{\pi t}{T} \right )[/itex]?
 
I don't understand your answer
 
I take this topic to introduce another question: in wikipedia, I found others difinitions to Fourier series:

[tex]f(t)=A_0+\sum_{n=1}^{\infty } A_n cos\left ( \frac{2 \pi n t}{T}-\phi_n \right )[/tex]
where:

##A_0 = \frac{1}{2}a_0##
##A_n = \sqrt{a_{n}^{2}+b_{n}^{2}}##
##\phi_n = tan^{-1}\left ( \frac{b_n}{a_n} \right )##


and:

[tex]f(t)=\gamma_0+2\sum_{n=1}^{\infty } \gamma_n cos\left ( \frac{2 \pi n t}{T}+\varphi_n \right )[/tex]
where:

##\gamma_0 = c_0##
##\gamma_n = abs(c_n)##
##\varphi_n = arg(c_n)##



I'd like to know if ##\varphi_n## is or isn't equal to ##\phi_n## ?
 

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