Paradox of the Expanding Universe: Debunking the Big Bang Theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the expanding universe and the implications of the Big Bang theory, particularly addressing the paradox of how an infinite universe can expand. Participants explore various aspects of cosmology, including density parameters, gravitational influences, and the role of dark energy in the expansion of the universe.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the logic of an infinite universe expanding, suggesting it presents a paradox.
  • Another participant argues that the concept of infinity does not limit the possibility of expansion, emphasizing that infinity is not a number.
  • A participant notes that density plays a role in the expansion of the universe, referencing the Omega parameter and its implications for the universe's shape.
  • There is a discussion about the gravitational influences determining whether the universe continues to expand, with references to different geometric shapes of the universe.
  • One participant distinguishes between dark energy and the Hubble parameter, clarifying that the Hubble parameter measures the rate of expansion while dark energy is associated with the acceleration of that expansion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of an infinite universe and its expansion, with no consensus reached on the paradox presented. There are also varying interpretations of the roles of density, gravitational influences, and dark energy in the context of cosmic expansion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of infinity and its relationship to expansion are not fully explored. The discussion also touches on unresolved aspects of the density parameter and its implications for the universe's geometry.

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My dad asked me the other day... if space orginated from a big bang as we think... does that not mean it is expanding outwards? How can it be expanding if it is infinite already.

I couldn't answer him there and its a serious paradox in thinking. So where is he wrong and what's the go with that?
 
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It may or may not be infinite, but that doesn't affect whether or not it can expand. Infinity is not a number. It isn't a limit.
 
infinity is just a concept right... wow i actually learned that from maths. :)

The density affects whether it expands or not right? Omega is less than/ equal to or greater than 1 idea... and the triangle drawn onto that sheet of paper?
 
Wellsi said:
The density affects whether it expands or not right? Omega is less than/ equal to or greater than 1 idea... and the triangle drawn onto that sheet of paper?

The gravitational influence of everything in the universe decides whether or not it keeps expanding (which it will) What you're talking about is, i think, the shape of the universe (saddle, sphere or flat). Dark energy gives us how fast it's expanding.
 
Aschere said:
Dark energy gives us how fast it's expanding.

Not quite. The Hubble parameter tells us the change in scale factor (ie. the rate of expansion). Dark energy is the label given to whatever it is that is causing the expansion to accelerate at the present time.
 

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