Parametrization vs. coordinate system

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The discussion centers on the concepts of parametrization and coordinate systems within the context of differential topology and manifolds. Participants explore the definitions and implications of these terms, particularly in relation to mappings between manifolds and Euclidean spaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines a parametrization as a diffeomorphism from an open subset of R^k to a neighborhood in a manifold, while the inverse is termed a coordinate system.
  • Another participant explains that a coordinate map specifies coordinate values for points in a manifold, contrasting it with parametrization, which maps from R^m to the manifold.
  • A participant questions whether the requirement for U to be open is necessary, suggesting that a local extension could define a smooth map if U were not open.
  • Another participant asserts that neighborhoods are by definition open, implying that a manifold cannot be homeomorphic to a non-open subset of R^k.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of U being open in the definition of a manifold, indicating a lack of consensus on this point. There is also a discussion of the roles of parametrization and coordinate systems, with some agreement on their definitions but variations in interpretation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of neighborhoods and manifolds, as well as the implications of parametrization and coordinate systems. The necessity of U being open remains unresolved.

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I am reading Differential Topology by Guillemin and Pollack.

Definition: X in RN is a k-dimensional manifold if it is locally diffeomorphic to Rk.

Suppose U is an open subset of Rk and V is a neighborhood of a point x in X.
A diffeomorphism f:U->V is called a parametrization of the neighborhood V.

The inverse mapping f-1:V->U is called a coordinate system.

Why is f a parametrization and its inverse a coordinate system? How do these terms fit in the big picture of manifolds?

I understand that we are rewriting V in X into a new coordinate system in Rk, that is easier to work with as oppose to some abstract space X. I not to sure of how to interpret the parametrization f.
 
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Think of it as follows:

By coordinate map one means a mapping that specifies coordinate values for each point in your manifold M. So it would go in the direction M -> R^m

Think of a path in M parametrized by a real number. It is represented as a mapping in the direction R -> M. Similarly, a parametrization of a surface in M could be a mapping R^2 -> M. A parametrization of a whole m-dimensional set in M would be a mapping of the type R^m -> M, exactly opposite to the coordinate mapping.

I didn't bother to specify subsets etc. above, just wanted to illustrate why a parametrization is a mapping from some R^m into M. But maybe you already understood this, and wondered about something else? Sorry about not using your terminology, I just wrote like I'm used to.

Torquil
 
In my reading I got confuse with this definition:

Definition: X in R^N is a k-dimensional manifold if it is locally diffeomorphic to R^k; meaning that each point x\in X possesses a neighborhood V in X which is diffeomorphic to an open subset U of R^k. Is it necessary for U to be open?

If U was not open, we can use a local extension to define a smooth map?
 
Neighborhoods are by definition open. It couldn't be homeomorphic to anything but an open subset of R^k.
 

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