Parametrized Curve on the Function f(x, y) = x^2 - y^2 + 4?

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The discussion revolves around a parametrized curve defined by r= and its relationship to the function f(x, y) = x^2 - y^2 + 4. Participants are exploring whether the curve lies on the surface defined by the function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the correct interpretation of the problem, particularly the relationship between the parametrized curve in 3-space and the surface defined by the function. There is an exploration of substituting values from the parametrized curve into the function to verify if it lies on the surface.

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Some participants have provided guidance on checking the relationship between the parametrized curve and the surface by suggesting substitutions. There is acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the problem's wording and the variables involved.

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Participants note that the original problem may have been misinterpreted due to its wording, which could have led to confusion about the dimensions and relationships of the equations involved.

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Homework Statement



6. Show that the parametrized curve r=<t+(1/t),t-(1/t),8> lies on the curve f(x, y) = x^2 - y^2 + 4? Show your calculations.


2. The attempt at a solution

I don't know where to start. I've just been plugging in random x and y and t values and haven't had any luck or insight on how to solve this problem. Any help appreciated.
 
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Are you sure the problem is stated correctly? You have given a curve in 3-space and your equation f(x,y) defines a surface in 3-space, not a curve. You might write its equation as:

z = x2 - y2 + 4

Check whether r(t) lies on that surface (plug in the values).
 
Hi icosane,

Well first ill assume that f(x,y) = z. Perhaps this is something that you forgot to include, or perhaps it inst specified in the question, which might then be where all the confusion lies. So considering the two equations:

<br /> \textbf{r}\ = \ &lt;t+(1/t),t-(1/t),8&gt; \ \ (i)<br />

<br /> f(x, y) = x^2 - y^2 + 4<br />

or

<br /> z = x^2 - y^2 + 4 \ \ (ii)<br />

now consider equation (ii), we have three variables, do we have any expression we can substitute for them, do I hear (i) calling. From hear you should be able to show using equation (i) that the components of (i) satisfy (ii). Have a go :D
 
The exact wording of the question is,

6. Which of the following parametrized curves lie on the graph of the function f(x, y) =
x^2 - y2 + 4? Show your calculations.
r1(t) = (t + 1/t)i + (t - 1/t )j + 8k.
r2(t) = sin(t)i + cos(t)j + 4k

This question was written by the professor and it likely was the wording that confused me. I see that if I let f(x,y) = z, then let x = t+1/t, y = t-1/t, and z = 8 * plug this into the original equation x^2-y^2+4 = z everything seems to work out. Thanks guys.
 

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