Partial Derivative Simplification

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of the expression involving second partial derivatives of a function A, which depends on variables x, y, and z. Participants are examining the validity of a proposed simplification and its implications.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to simplify the expression for the sum of second partial derivatives, while others question the correctness of this manipulation and suggest that more context about the function A is needed. One participant proposes testing the simplification with a specific function as a counterexample.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring the implications of the proposed simplification and raising questions about its validity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of partial derivatives and the importance of counterexamples in verifying results.

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Participants are considering whether the problem is part of a formal assignment and discussing the broader implications of the proposed simplification in the context of mathematical reasoning.

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Homework Statement
A is a function of x, y, and z. Simplify:
$$\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial y^2}$$
Relevant Equations
Simplify $$\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial y^2}$$
Hi there!

I would like to know if the following simplification is correct or not:
Let A be a function of x, y, and z

$$\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial y^2}$$
$$=\ \frac{\partial^2A\partial y^2+\partial^2A\partial x^2}{\partial x^2\partial y^2}$$
$$=\frac{\partial^2A\left(\partial y^2+\partial x^2\right)}{\partial x^2\partial y^2}$$
$$=\ \frac{\partial^2A\left(\partial z^2\right)}{\partial x^2\partial y^2}$$
$$=0\ \ \left(since\frac{\partial z^2}{\partial y^2}=0\right)$$

Thanks!
 
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What happens if A(x,y,z)=x2?

There has to be more to the problem than what you state.
 
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BlackMelon said:
Homework Statement: A is a function of x, y, and z. Simplify:
$$\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial y^2}$$
Relevant Equations: Simplify $$\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial y^2}$$

Hi there!

I would like to know if the following simplification is correct or not:
Let A be a function of x, y, and z

$$\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial x^2}+\frac{\partial^2A}{\partial y^2}
=\ \frac{\partial^2A\partial y^2+\partial^2A\partial x^2}{\partial x^2\partial y^2}$$

\dfrac{\partial^2 A}{\partial x^2} is not a fraction. \dfrac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2} is the second partial derivative operator with respect to x, keeping other variables constant. It does not have a "numerator" or "denominator" which you can manipulate separately in order to put a sum of such operators over a "common denominator". Without knowing more about A, there is nothing about the expression <br /> \frac{\partial^2 A}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 A}{\partial y^2} that can be simplified.
 
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BlackMelon said:
Thanks!
Was this a formal assignment? (from where?)
Please do not miss the larger point (from @Frabjous) that a good way to check a proposed result is to try to create a counterexample. You only need one.....that is what makes the scientific method so powerful.
 

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