Particle-antiparticle annihilation and spin

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter Nicky
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Annihilation Spin
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on particle-antiparticle annihilation, specifically focusing on electron-positron and proton-antiproton interactions. It is established that annihilation can occur even if the particles are in opposite spin eigenstates, as total spin must be conserved. The annihilation of positronium, an electron-positron bound state, demonstrates that the spin 0 state decays into two photons more rapidly than the spin 1 state, which decays into three photons due to conservation laws. Charge conjugation invariance is also a critical factor, as it dictates the decay pathways based on the spin states of positronium.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics principles, particularly spin and angular momentum conservation.
  • Familiarity with particle physics concepts, including particle-antiparticle pairs and their interactions.
  • Knowledge of positronium and its decay mechanisms.
  • Awareness of charge conjugation invariance and its implications in particle decay.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of quantum mechanics, focusing on spin and angular momentum conservation.
  • Study the properties and decay processes of positronium in detail.
  • Explore charge conjugation invariance and its role in particle physics.
  • Examine the implications of photon spin in particle-antiparticle annihilation scenarios.
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for physicists, students of quantum mechanics, and anyone interested in the nuances of particle interactions and annihilation processes.

Nicky
Messages
54
Reaction score
0
I have a question regarding particle-antiparticle annihilation, such as electron-positron, proton-antiproton, etc. Can the annihilation still occur if the two particles are in opposite spin eigenstates, i.e. if the pair has zero net spin?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The spin of the whole system has to be conserved.

The particle and the antiparticle will annihilate into two photons. Because of spin conservation (one photon has spin of 1 and particle antiparticle has in your sense net spin of 0). You see? Two photons also with net spin zero.
 
For positronium (electron-positron bound state), the state with total spin 0 annihilates much faster than the state with spin 1, because the spin 1 state must annihilate into three photons, with 1+1+1=1.
Incidentally, the two particles are NOT in opposite spin eigenstates.
If they are in an eigenstate of total spin (1 or 0), the individual particles can not be in spin eigenstates.
 
Sorry, I'm missing something very obvious that I do know, but can't put my finger on right now (note to self - drinking heavily the night before doing Physics doesn't work...). Why can't the spin 0 positronium state decay to two photons with spin +1, -1 respectivaly? That conserves the spin surely?
 
James - who said it doesn't?
 
Meir Achuz said:
For positronium (electron-positron bound state), the state with total spin 0 annihilates much faster than the state with spin 1, because the spin 1 state must annihilate into three photons, with 1+1+1=1.

Does the spin 1 state decay in two stages? Maybe spin 1 positronium -> spin 0 positronium + photon, then spin 0 positronium -> two photons?
 
Kruger said:
The spin of the whole system has to be conserved.

The particle and the antiparticle will annihilate into two photons. Because of spin conservation (one photon has spin of 1 and particle antiparticle has in your sense net spin of 0). You see? Two photons also with net spin zero.

Can u prove it?

Meir Achuz said:
For positronium (electron-positron bound state), the state with total spin 0 annihilates much faster than the state with spin 1, because the spin 1 state must annihilate into three photons, with 1+1+1=1.

Why?

juvenal said:
James - who said it doesn't?

Umm,Quantum Mechanics...? :rolleyes:

Daniel.
 
Can u prove it?

hehe. No. You learned me that spin has not to be conserved. Only total angular momentum has to be conserved.
 
oh oh, this is a dangerous one


drop it like it's hot...

marlon
 
  • #10
dextercioby said:
Umm,Quantum Mechanics...? :rolleyes:

Daniel.

Maybe you're misunderstanding my point, and I'm not sure why you are since it's pretty explicit.

You're saying that spin 0 positronium CANNOT decay to two photons? That is what I'm referring to.

If so, I beg to differ:

http://rockpile.phys.virginia.edu/mmod27.pdf

Bottom of page 3. (Further up may lie the answer to your inquiry of Meir Achuz's post).
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #11
I didn't say that,i missinterpreted your question,since you simply asked it without quoting what in James Jackson's post you were referring to.

Daniel.
 
  • #12
So far we have left out charge conjugation invariance, which was tacitly assumed in my original answer. Photons have C=-1. Positronium of spin 0 has C=+1, and so can decay into two photons. Positronium of spin 1 has C=-1, and cannot decay into two photons. Three is the next lowest number. If this leads to more questions, I will try to answer them as asked.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K