Particle in a triangular potential well

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The discussion revolves around a particle in a potential well shaped like an isosceles right triangle. Participants are attempting to determine the wave function and allowed energies for the particle within this potential framework.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the potential function, questioning how to express it accurately given its linear characteristics. There are attempts to define the potential in different regions and concerns about the nature of the potential well versus a hill.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and suggestions about the potential function. Some guidance has been offered regarding centering the well and the implications of the potential's behavior, but no consensus has been reached on the final formulation or the next steps.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the lack of strict boundaries between potential values and the implications of varying potential within the well. Participants are also navigating the complexities of normalization and unit consistency in their equations.

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Homework Statement


Particle is in a potential well in the shape of a isosceles right-angled triangle. Need to find the wave function and allowed energies.


Homework Equations


How to determinate a boundaries for the potential when that line is in a form of some linear function, there is no strict point between potential equal to zero and infinity potential.


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried potential as [itex]kx[/itex] for [itex]0<x<\frac{a}{2}[/itex], and [itex]-kx[/itex] for [itex]\frac{a}{2}<x<a[/itex], but seems that is not right.
 
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Plot your potential function. Is it a well? Write up a potential function which has minimum at x=0. ehild
 
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This plot of potential function
 

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Your function is not the same as the plot. -kx is negative in the range a/2<x<a

By the way, the drawing shows a hill instead of a well.

ehild
 
Storry, like this
 

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That is better. What is the potential function?

ehild
 
That is my main problem, I don't know how to write it, I know that potential is zero inside and ∞ outside, that green area is unreachable for the particle.
 
You know the equation of a straight line? You have a straight line for 0<x<a/2 which intersects the x-axis at x=a/2, and makes -45° angle with it. And you have an other equation for a/2<x<a, that encloses a positive angle of 45° with the x axis.

ehild
 
masterjoda said:
there is no strict point between potential equal to zero and infinity potential.
What is this supposed to mean?

masterjoda said:
That is my main problem, I don't know how to write it, I know that potential is zero inside and ∞ outside, that green area is unreachable for the particle.
The potential isn't zero inside. It varies with x.

If you want to make things a bit simpler, take ehild's suggestion to center the well at x=0.
 
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vela said:
The potential isn't zero inside. It varies with x.

Yes, exactly.

If I center the well at x=0 then I have a function

[itex]V(x)=<br /> \begin{cases}<br /> -x & \text{for } -\frac{a}{2}<x < 0 \\<br /> x & \text{for } 0 < x < \frac{a}{2} \\<br /> 0 & \text{for } x=0\\<br /> \infty & \text{elsewhere}<br /> \end{cases}[/itex]
 
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  • #11
Looks good. Now what?
 
  • #12
I need to find ψ and allowed energies inside the well.
 
  • #13
Well, we're not here to do your homework for you. Show us your work. What do you have so far?
 
  • #14
I've just realized that the right potential is [itex]V(x)=\left | x \right | \text{for } x\in \left \{ -\infty, \infty \right \}[/itex]
 
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So far I have this:

[itex]-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\mathrm{d^2}\psi }{\mathrm{d} x^2} + |x|\psi=E\psi[/itex]

[itex]c=\frac{2m}{\hbar^2}[/itex] and [itex]k=\frac{\sqrt{2mE}}{k}[/itex]

solution is [itex]\psi(x)=C_1\text{Ai}(\frac{cx-k^2}{c^{\frac{2}{3}}})+C_2\text{Bi}(\frac{cx-k^2}{c^{\frac{2}{3}}})[/itex] because x is always > 0, Bi goes to ∞ so C_2 have to be 0. And final solution is [itex]\psi(x)=C_1\text{Ai}((\frac{2m}{\hbar^2})^{\frac{1}{3}}(x-E))[/itex]. I've determined the energy from conditions [itex]\psi^{(1)}_n=\psi^{(2)}_n[/itex] and [itex]\psi'^{(1)}_n=\psi'^{(2)}_n[/itex]. And energies are: for even [itex]E_n=-a'_{n+1}[/itex] and for the odd [itex]E_n=-a_{n+1}[/itex]. Normalization is a bit tricky [itex]C_1^2\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \text{Ai}^2(x-E_n)dx=1[/itex], I don't know how to solve this integral.
 
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Your solutions don't work out unit-wise. For example, you can't subtract E from x. They don't have the same units.
 
  • #17
Yes they do, potential at x have the same value as the x coordinate, V(x)=|x|, unit of that x is the same as the unit of E.
 

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