Particle of certain mass moving in an xy plane

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The problem involves a particle of mass 0.39 kg moving in an xy plane, with its position described by parametric equations for x(t) and y(t). The discussion centers around determining the net force's magnitude and angle, as well as the angle of the particle's direction of travel at a specific time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the net force by finding the second derivatives of the position functions and using trigonometric relationships to determine angles. There is confusion regarding the relationship between the angles of the force vector and the direction of travel.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the angles related to the net force and the particle's direction, while others question the need for adjustments to these angles. The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the angle measurements and their relevance to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the particle's position at a specific time and the implications of its coordinates on the angle calculations. Participants are considering the quadrant in which the particle is located and how that affects angle resolution.

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Homework Statement



A 0.39 kg particle moves in an xy plane according to x(t) = - 13 + 1 t - 6 t^3 and y(t) = 28 + 5 t - 11 t^2, with x and y in meters and t in seconds. At t = 1.0 s, what are (a) the magnitude and (b) the angle (within (-180°, 180°] interval relative to the positive direction of the x axis) of the net force on the particle, and (c) what is the angle of the particle's direction of travel?

Homework Equations



F(y) = ma(y)
F(x) = ma(x)

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I've got the magnitude of the force correct as 16.45N after finding the second derivative of x and y and then using Pythagoras's theorem.

What I'm struggling with is part B and C. From what I understand both answers should be the same, as the direction of Fnet should be the direction of travel.

I attempted to calculate the angle between the force and the y axis. I used sin^-1 theta = 22/28.43. This gave me a value for theta of 50.71 degrees. I then added 90 degrees to this to get the angle relative to the positive x axis. Getting an answer of 140.71 degrees for both B and C. But this is apparently wrong.

Where did I go wrong?
 
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The y-component and the x-component of the force, together with the total force vector, form a right triangle. The angle you want has the y-component as the side opposite to it, and the x-component as the side adjacent to it. Therefore:

θ = tan-1(Fy/Fx)
 
Also, for part C, you want the angle of the position vector, not the force vector. So the answers to part B and C will NOT be the same.
 
Therefore the answer to B will be:

θ = tan-1(8.58/14.04) = 31.43 degrees
Relative to positive x-axis = 180 - θ = 148.57 degrees

And the answer to C will be:

θ = tan-1(22/18) = 50.71 degrees
Relative to positive x-axis = θ + 90 = 140.71 degrees

Is that right? And thanks for the help, it's much appreciated.
 
eximius said:
Therefore the answer to B will be:

θ = tan-1(8.58/14.04) = 31.43 degrees
Relative to positive x-axis = 180 - θ = 148.57 degrees

And the answer to C will be:

θ = tan-1(22/18) = 50.71 degrees
Relative to positive x-axis = θ + 90 = 140.71 degrees

Is that right? And thanks for the help, it's much appreciated.

I don't understand why you're doing these weird shifts. Draw a picture. Assuming that you're taking up to the positive y-direction and rightwards to be the positive x-direction, then the original angles you get (31.43 and 50.71) are fine (i.e. they are already measured from the positive x-axis). They lie within the specified ranges and there is no need to apply these offsets to them.

Note: I haven't checked your arithmetic. What I'm saying is that assuming that 31.43 and 50.71 are actually correct values in the first place, then there is no need to do anything else to them.
 
I used the 2 equations to calculate the position of the particle at t = 1, I get (-18,22). This shows that the particle is traveling North West. Doesn't the negative value of x indicate that I need to resolve the angles to the 2nd quadrant?
 

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