Particle of M=0, Q=1, S=1/2, Confined?

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The discussion explores the concept of a mass-less electrically charged particle with spin 1/2 and the possibility of it being confined by a hypothetical potential. Participants consider interpretations of such a particle, including its relation to electrons and the Higgs mechanism, as well as implications for momentum space and spin configurations.

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  • One participant proposes the idea of a mass-less charged particle that behaves like a localized massive charged particle at large distances, suggesting a "speed of light random walk."
  • Another participant draws a parallel to the Higgs mechanism, noting that while there is no confining potential, interactions with the Higgs field can give mass to particles like electrons.
  • A further contribution suggests a method to visualize the spin of the mass-less particle using momentum vectors, proposing that specific assignments of helicity could correspond to different spin states.
  • Another participant introduces the proton as a relevant system, highlighting the complexity of its spin and mass contributions from quarks confined by QCD.

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Participants present multiple competing views regarding the nature of mass-less charged particles and their confinement, with no consensus reached on the interpretations or implications discussed.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of their models, particularly in relation to the confinement potential and the nature of spin in momentum space. The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of particles under various conditions without resolving these complexities.

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Hypothetically, could we have a mass-less electrically charged particle of spin 1/2 confined by a hypothetical potential so that at large distance scales the particle looked like localized massive charged particle of spin 1/2? I'm thinking of a mass-less charged particle that does some kind of speed of light random walk.

Is it possible to interpret electrons this way?

Thanks!
 
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Coincidentally, this is not too far away from how the Higgs mechanism works. There is no confining potential, but the interactions with the background Higgs field. And the "random walk" is a quantum random walk with the particle passing all possible states with different amplitude. Without the Higgs field, the electron would be massless.

However, it is generally simpler to include the mass part of the Lagrangian in the free part when doing perturbation theory.
 
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Can I build on that picture in the following way. In 3 dimensional momentum space plot a very large number of momentum vectors that represents the possible values of momentum this mass-less particle can take. Let all the momentum vectors with a positive (negative) component of momentum in the z direction have right-handed helicity (left-handed helicity), or momentum vectors in the upper half of momentum space are right-handed and momentum vectors in the lower half of momentum space are left-handed.

With such an assignment do I get a particle that is spin up?

Notice if we rotate the above picture 180 degrees about the x or y-axis we get spin down?

A rotation of the above picture 90 degrees around the y-axis gives us 50% spin in +x and 50% spin in -x?

Thanks!
 
The proton is also an interesting system in that context: tiny masses of the quarks (charged with spin 1/2), confined by QCD, leading to a much larger mass. The proton spin is very complex, and not simply the sum of spins of its valence quarks.
 
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