Particle Spinning: Why and What Happens If They Stop?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of particle spin in quantum mechanics, exploring why particles exhibit spin, what it means, and the implications if they were to stop spinning. Participants delve into the nature of spin, its distinction from classical spin, and the broader implications of quantum mechanics on our understanding of reality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that particles spin simply because they are measured to spin, without a deeper explanation provided.
  • Others argue that the term "spin" in quantum mechanics does not correspond to everyday spinning objects and is merely a label for a property related to angular momentum.
  • A few participants highlight the complexity of quantum mechanics, suggesting that it is fundamentally different from classical mechanics and that our understanding is limited.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of charge, with some noting that charge is an observed property and its definitions (positive and negative) are somewhat arbitrary.
  • Some participants express skepticism about our ability to truly understand quantum phenomena, emphasizing the difference between observation in classical and quantum mechanics.
  • There are claims that while classical mechanics allows for direct observation, quantum mechanics only provides outcomes from experiments, leading to uncertainty about underlying reasons.
  • One participant suggests that the concept of "observation" in quantum mechanics is misunderstood and that what we perceive is influenced by our measurement techniques.
  • Another participant raises a philosophical question about the nature of existence in quantum mechanics, comparing it to the question of why particles occupy space.

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Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the fundamental nature of spin, charge, or the implications of quantum mechanics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper understanding of these concepts.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in understanding quantum mechanics, including the dependence on definitions and the challenges of interpreting measurements. There is an ongoing debate about the nature of reality at the quantum level and how it differs from classical experiences.

  • #31
N88 said:
Why? Because if "orbital angular momentum" is the same as ## \overrightarrow{L}##, then it seems to me that the EPRB particles are not orbiting??.

I don't know the details of it,but no, I would think that, conceptually, you're creating an electron-positron pair that are heading off in opposite directions, so there is no orbital angular momentum in the center of mass frame.
 
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If it is only for the sake of understanding the EPR experiment, you could use pairs of compound particles. If the particles which make up the compound particle, have no spin of their own, the spin of the compound particle will be equal to the orbital angular momentum L. L will have more than two possible values, so the EPR experiment will turn out slightly more complicated.
 

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