Path connected subgroups of SO(3),

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The discussion revolves around the characterization of path-connected subgroups of the special orthogonal group SO(3). Participants explore the conditions under which such subgroups can be classified as either containing only the identity, consisting of all rotations about a single axis, or encompassing the entirety of SO(3). The scope includes theoretical aspects of Lie groups and their properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that a path-connected subgroup of SO(3) must be one of three types: only the identity, all rotations about a single axis, or all of SO(3).
  • Another participant supports this claim by referencing Yamabe's theorem, which connects path-connected subgroups of SO(3) to subalgebras of the Lie algebra ##\mathfrak{so}(3)##, explaining the dimensionality implications.
  • It is noted that if the corresponding Lie subalgebra has dimension 0, 1, or 3, it leads to the respective subgroup types, while dimension 2 is not possible.
  • Some participants express a desire for a more elementary proof, indicating that the intuitive nature of the fact may suggest simpler reasoning exists.

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Participants generally agree on the validity of the characterization of path-connected subgroups of SO(3) as stated, but there is no consensus on the existence of a simpler proof, with some expressing uncertainty about the complexity of the proof provided.

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The discussion highlights the reliance on specific theorems and the potential for alternative proofs, but does not resolve the question of whether a more straightforward proof exists.

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Hi, I'm giving a talk tomorrow morning, and I'd like to use the following fact: a path-connected subgroup of SO(3) consists of either a) only the identity, b) all the rotations about a single axis, or c) all of SO(3).

Unfortunately, I can't for the life of me find where I read it, and I'm not 100% sure I'm remembering it correctly. Can anyone provide a reference, a quick proof, or tell me it's wrong? Thanks!
 
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I probably saw this too late to be helpful for your talk, but the fact is true. The easiest proof is by applying Yamabe's theorem which says that any path-connected subgroup of ##SO(3)## corresponds to a subalgebra of ##\mathfrak{so}(3)##. More precisely, if ##H## is a path-connected subgroup of ##SO(3)##, then there is a Lie-subgroup ##\mathfrak{h}## of ##\mathfrak{so}(3)##, such that ##\mathfrak{h} = \langle \textrm{exp}\mathfrak{h}\rangle##.

So if ##\mathfrak{h}## has dimension ##0##, then you get the identity. If it has dimension ##1##, then you have the rotations with fixed axis. If it has dimensions ##3## then it is the entire group. It cannot have dimension ##2##.

For more information, see the excellent book by Hilgert and Neeb: "Structure and Geometry of Lie Groups"
 
micromass said:
I probably saw this too late to be helpful for your talk, but the fact is true. The easiest proof is by applying Yamabe's theorem which says that any path-connected subgroup of ##SO(3)## corresponds to a subalgebra of ##\mathfrak{so}(3)##. More precisely, if ##H## is a path-connected subgroup of ##SO(3)##, then there is a Lie-subgroup ##\mathfrak{h}## of ##\mathfrak{so}(3)##, such that ##\mathfrak{h} = \langle \textrm{exp}\mathfrak{h}\rangle##.

So if ##\mathfrak{h}## has dimension ##0##, then you get the identity. If it has dimension ##1##, then you have the rotations with fixed axis. If it has dimensions ##3## then it is the entire group. It cannot have dimension ##2##.

For more information, see the excellent book by Hilgert and Neeb: "Structure and Geometry of Lie Groups"

I really thought the proof would be easier than this. This fact seemed very intuitive to me.
 
Matterwave said:
I really thought the proof would be easier than this. This fact seemed very intuitive to me.

There is likely an elementary, direct proof. But this is the fastest way to prove it.
 

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