Peak of the number of daily deaths caused by Covid19

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling daily deaths caused by Covid-19, specifically focusing on the peak of daily deaths and the validity of a Gaussian model used by one participant. The scope includes theoretical modeling, mathematical reasoning, and epidemiological concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated daily deaths using a Gaussian model, predicting a peak of about 500 deaths on April 30, which matched the reported number.
  • Another participant questioned the validity of the model, suggesting that theoretical motivation is important, especially in the context of exponential growth in virus epidemics.
  • A third participant elaborated on the reasoning behind the Gaussian model, proposing that the number of deaths would increase with infections and decrease as the population becomes less susceptible over time.
  • A fourth participant introduced the SIR model, noting its compartmental approach and suggesting it may relate to the Gaussian model used by the first participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the Gaussian model, with some questioning its theoretical basis while others provide reasoning for its use. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of the model and the peak of daily deaths.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made in the Gaussian model and the potential applicability of compartmental models like SIR. The discussion does not resolve these aspects.

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Around the mid of april, I had done some calculations to get some numbers for daily deaths in my country due to covid19. It was really simple, just a gaussian without taking into account any other factor.

I concluded that if the peak of daily deaths occurred on april 30, we would have about 500 deaths that day. The officially reported number of deaths turned out to be about 500! So if my model was correct, we already passed the peak, right?

But how to know if my model was correct? It seems that I have to wait until the "end" of the pandemic, to see if the peak was indeed reach on april 30. Correct? If that's the case, then my model was giving me the right numbers.
 
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Or you were lucky. It would be nice if there was some theoretical motivation for your model. This is especially true when you are dealing with something like a virus epidemic, where the growth can be exponential and there has been a lot of work on models that have a lot of logic behind them.
 
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Or you were lucky
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FactChecker said:
It would be nice if there was some theoretical motivation for your model
I think the main motivation is that there must be an increase as more and more people get infected, then as less people get infected (since a large portion of the population already got the virus) less people will die? Until we reach a point far away, aka letting time go to infinity, where essentially nobody is dying from the virus.

I think the most simple mathematical function for describing that is a gaussian.
 
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