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Who voted 'clear'? Was it you Ivan? Are you giving us a hint that maybe the answer is 'air'?
PF Remote Viewing Test: Object Revealed Any Winner? P. 7
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The discussion revolves around a remote viewing test initiated by a forum member, Zero, who invites participants to describe a mystery object inside a bag filled with shipping peanuts. The first correct description wins a Physics Forum T-shirt. Participants engage with humor and skepticism, offering various guesses about the object, ranging from mundane items to whimsical suggestions. There is a notable debate about the validity and methodology of remote viewing, with some participants arguing that proper protocols should be followed for a legitimate test. Others express frustration over perceived mockery of the test, emphasizing the need for serious engagement with the topic. The conversation also touches on the complexities of remote viewing as a practice, including the influence of personal skill and the importance of double-blind procedures. Overall, the thread highlights a mix of playful speculation and serious inquiry into the nature of remote viewing and its potential validity.
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a flying saucer...aka a frisbee?
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Just like you Jonathan I was thinking for a moment Ivan was playing a game. I was thinking that he put inside the bag with shipping peanuts ... a bag with real or other shipping peanuts. But that was logic and that has nothing to do with my excellent RV talents! The problem is that I made already once a 'guess' and I am not allowed to do a second one.
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Ivan, I can't stand the suspense, tell us! I think we have pretty well proven that none of us have any clue!
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Zero
I'm thinking it is a piece of plastic, in the oval shape of an alien's head, about 1" long, 3/4" wide, and approximately .50-.88 mm thick.
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Well, Jonathan is getting a little impatient.
[See the remote viewing poll]
When do you all think we should reveal the mystery object? I was thinking of letting this run for a time, but I can see people losing interest also. What do you all think; now, a couple of days, a week, a month?
PJ, after re-reading your posts tonight, I would like to work out a plan this week. I really appreciate your participation and help here.
Anyone with ideas or comments about creating a fair test of RV please chime in.
[See the remote viewing poll]
When do you all think we should reveal the mystery object? I was thinking of letting this run for a time, but I can see people losing interest also. What do you all think; now, a couple of days, a week, a month?
PJ, after re-reading your posts tonight, I would like to work out a plan this week. I really appreciate your participation and help here.
Anyone with ideas or comments about creating a fair test of RV please chime in.
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Zero
You mean I still haven't gotten it?
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I'm not saying until full disclosure...except for one notable exception.
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You were invited here. At this point you are a consultant donating your time and knowledge; not someone pushing an agenda.
Everyone please remember this.
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Nommos Prime (Dogon)
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A calculator with 8 digit display, brand Aurora.
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split
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There is nothing in the bag except packing peanuts.
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Zeke
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its the PF sweat shirt or T shirt or another black bag
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BoulderHead
I sense an article of cloth, possibly a sheet or blanket. It seems to be lightly colored, possibly pink.
What sort of books are in that box?
What sort of books are in that box?
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yadda
I'm seeing a... flat, disk shaped object, as well as a sphere shaped object.
...er, how specific do I have to be?
...er, how specific do I have to be?
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As specific as possible. Obviously I am looking for one, or some, or many key features to describe the object...to my satisfaction.
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FZ+
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Wait, the Earth is moving around the sun, right? And with a changing acceleration and stuff like that... How are we going to get the space-time coordinates to sense the object when everything is moving about? We could all be right, just looking at the wrong bag of peanuts.
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Really that's the funny part! I am sitting in a giant warehouse stacked to the rafters with millions of black bags filled with shipping peanuts. Didn't I mention that I warehouse shipping peanuts for a living.
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Jonathan
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You're joking, right?
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You will have to ascertain the answer psychically.
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This is the effect I am worried about coming into play in this particular test. Since I have read, let's say, 200 of Ivan's posts since July when I joined, I know all kinds of things about the way he thinks, and chooses, tht I don't even realize I know. Along with that, he has written, and I have read many posts since the thing was put in the bag. He may have left all kinds of unconscious clues for someone like myself who has picked up masses of tiny bits of apparently meaningless information about him, to follow.
I have to disagree with Hypnagogue's notion that joking won't work, because it is very likely that the surge of humor behind cracking a joke, or the resultant relaxation, is going to be the thing to jog someone into suddenly putting all this information together such that the correct object pops into their head.
I don't even want to make a guess in jest, because if it were to turn out to be correct for the above reasons, it could be construed as "psi". The limits of the 17 physical sences we have aren't known, and, more importantly, neither are the limits of our mind's ability to put together an accurate picture from a few indirect indications.
So, since PJ has pointed out that there are some flaws in the set up, and since I think that under the circumstances humor is a likely to lead to a correct answer as seriousness, I hope people will be allowed to offer humorous reponses without fearing the wrath of Hypnagogue.
Can I make fun of PJ now?
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No making fun now.
You are always nice though; all input is appreciated.
In fact, we have something to think about. PJ has offered to help set up two well constructed tests: One to be done by one or several remote viewers and judged by a select group from PF, and another ongoing test in which everyone can participate - again, done so as to meet the standard criteria for such things. These are not really an effort to prove or disprove anything, obviously we won't resolve any real questions here, but it could serve as a useful demonstration of good science as applied to the phenomenal [hopefully].
The biggest problem is how to judge the results. I will be posting some information to be considered later, and I am looking for people willing to participate. The key issue revolves around the claim psychic viewing yields information around, or related to the target, and not necessarily about the target itself. Judging becomes implicitly subjective as a result. PJ talks about this a bit in this thread.
Any comments about this so far are appreciated. This is going to take some work and some time. Stay tuned.
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FZ+
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So, do I get the T-shirt for answering the question you did not ask?
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Zeke
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a ha it must be other shipping peaunts
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BoulderHead
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But how can you be certain it was never covered by an article of cloth, possibly a sheet or blanket colored light pink?
Maybe I could still be right?
But how can you be certain it was never covered by an article of cloth, possibly a sheet or blanket colored light pink?
Maybe I could still be right?
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No. . I stuck to the protocol; it still sits there as shown.
New contest:
What is the mystery object.
sorry; no prizes for this one.
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Jonathan
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The mystery object appears to be an usual glass tube with several things inside.
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zoobyshoe
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Nothing remotely like it popped into my head. I really thought Fz+ had probably come the closest.
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Its a Physics forum T-shirt
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A fruit juicer?
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