Phasing 2 Electrons' Wavefunctions

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical representation of two electrons with a specific focus on their wavefunctions and the concept of phasing. Participants explore the meaning of "2 phased electrons" and the implications of combining or synchronizing their wavefunctions, touching on concepts from quantum mechanics.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to mathematically represent two phased electrons.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on what is meant by "2 phased electrons."
  • A participant suggests that phasing involves magnetically adjusting one electron behind another to create a new wavefunction.
  • There is confusion regarding the term "phase," with participants noting multiple interpretations of the word.
  • Some participants express difficulty in understanding the original question and suggest that the questioner clarify their intent.
  • One participant questions whether it is possible to chain two electrons to create a new wavefunction, referencing practices in particle physics.
  • Another participant asserts that the original question lacks clarity and suggests that the questioner may have misconceptions about quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the meaning of the original question, with multiple competing interpretations of "2 phased electrons" and the concept of phasing. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mathematical representation sought.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions and unclear definitions, particularly regarding the term "phase" and its application in the context of electron wavefunctions. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the foundational concepts involved.

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Can anyone tell me how to mathematically represent 2 phased electrons mathematically?
Thank you in advance.
 
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What do you mean by "2 phased electrons"?
 
Magnetically phase one electron behind another. To create a new wave function.
 
Well, that cleared things up!
 
Great, so you can help?
 
phase (transitive verb)
  1. to adjust so as to be in a synchronized condition
  2. to conduct or carry out by planned phases
  3. to introduce in stages —usually used with in : eg phase in new models
I can't even tell which meaning you intend.
 
Phase the waves together. I'm not sure how you want me to explain this.
 
Pwestchester said:
I'm not sure how you want me to explain this.

The onus is not on us to read your mind and figure out what you mean. The onus is on you to clearly explain what you are asking. Since you are asking this as an A-level, i.e. graduate, level you shouldn't have a difficult time at this.

A good rule of thumb is to put at least as much effort into asking the question as you expect us to put in answering it.
 
You have at least two particle physicists here (plus whoever else read the thread and didn't post) and we both can't understand what you are asking.
It looks like you have some misconceptions about quantum mechanics, but based on your description it is difficult to tell where they are.
 
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As a PS, try to write your question without using "phase" as a verb.
 
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So what you are saying is you can't chain 2 electrons together to create a new wavefunction? Is this not what particle physicists do? Decombine and combine particles?
So what is this 2 phased electron composite wave?
 
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No, what we are saying is that you have written something we don't understand. How you got that out of a bunch of questions like "what do you mean" is beyond me.
 
  • #13
Ok well if you don't know what I'm talking about or what an electron is then why even bother commenting?
 
  • #14
It looks like this thread has run its course and it’s time to thank everyone for contributing here. To the OP you’ve been given some good answers that you can now review and reflect upon and perhaps find the best answer to your questions.
 

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