PhD in Physics: Facts, Fees and Admittance to Cambridge

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of pursuing a PhD in Physics, particularly at Cambridge University. Participants explore various aspects such as duration, funding, university reputation, and the overall difficulty of admission and completion.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a PhD typically takes about 3-6 years to complete, depending on the university and individual circumstances.
  • There is mention of a "masters in passing" that some universities offer, which allows students to receive a master's degree based on the work completed during their PhD.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of getting into Cambridge, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the specific qualifications needed for admission.
  • Participants discuss the nature of funding, noting that graduate students often receive stipends through Teaching Assistant (TA) or Research Assistant (RA) positions, but the specifics can vary widely.
  • Some argue that the reputation of the university may influence job prospects and networking opportunities after graduation.
  • There is a distinction made between the US and UK PhD systems, particularly regarding course requirements and funding structures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the duration and difficulty of PhD programs, with no consensus on the specifics of the admission process at Cambridge or the comparative difficulty of different universities.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific qualifications for admission to Cambridge, variations in funding structures between the US and UK systems, and the uncertainty surrounding the competitive nature of different programs.

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How hard is it to get a PhD in Physics? Does it matter which University I do it at? How long does it take? Do I get paid? Is it harder depending on Universities? I want to do one at Cambridge, is that really difficult to do?

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Doing a PhD is very hard and will be very frustrating a lot of the time. It takes about 3-4 years. You get paid. It's not more difficult at different universities, but the professor guiding you and the equipment you might have to work with might be better at more renowned universities. We don't know you're qualifications so there is no way of saying you'll get in, but I'm sure it is very difficult to get into Cambridge.
 
From what I hear, most Phd programs take 5-6 years on average. I know this seems like a lot but that's after getting a bachelors, not after a masters.

On a side note, many schools I've seen don't offer a masters degree in physics, but you can sometimes get something called a "masters in passing" while you are doing Phd, where they give you a masters because you completed the equivalent amount of work for a masters on your way to a Phd.

I don't know anything about the difficulty but I know a little bit about the competition and grading (at Berkeley anyways). Grading curves for undergraduate courses tend to be a bit harsher than graduate courses and the students tend to be less competitive from what I hear (though competition in undergraduate physics courses in upper division courses is nonexistent in my experience).

I don't know anything about the differences between universities but what eXorikos said makes sense to me. I imagine where you do it also may help getting a job afterwards, since a more renowned university may lead to more renowned references and connections.

As for getting paid, when you are a grad student, the university tends to give you a "job" of some kind. It is either a TA (Teaching Assistant) or RA (Research Assistant) job from what I hear. TA jobs help out with classes and are given by the university. From what I understand RA jobs are funded by research grants and are given out at the discretion of faculty members. Typically the pay is supposed to be all your tuition and fees and a stipend to help make ends meet. The size of the stipends depends on who you are and who you are working for from what I hear. I know a guy who got into a Phd program at UCLA and according to him, he would get expelled if he got a job because of the amount of money they are giving him. I don't know if that includes full time and part time jobs, excludes jobs at the university, or any other possible technicalities.

I don't know anything about Cambridge but I imagine it would be difficult to get into.

This is all from my own personal research and not from experience. I could be wrong but this is what I understand to be true.
 
The sticky thread "So You Want to Be a Physicist" at the top of this forum has a lot of useful information about getting a PhD.
 
id the sloth said:
From what I hear, most Phd programs take 5-6 years on average. I know this seems like a lot but that's after getting a bachelors, not after a masters.

On a side note, many schools I've seen don't offer a masters degree in physics, but you can sometimes get something called a "masters in passing" while you are doing Phd, where they give you a masters because you completed the equivalent amount of work for a masters on your way to a Phd.

I don't know anything about the difficulty but I know a little bit about the competition and grading (at Berkeley anyways). Grading curves for undergraduate courses tend to be a bit harsher than graduate courses and the students tend to be less competitive from what I hear (though competition in undergraduate physics courses in upper division courses is nonexistent in my experience).

I don't know anything about the differences between universities but what eXorikos said makes sense to me. I imagine where you do it also may help getting a job afterwards, since a more renowned university may lead to more renowned references and connections.

As for getting paid, when you are a grad student, the university tends to give you a "job" of some kind. It is either a TA (Teaching Assistant) or RA (Research Assistant) job from what I hear. TA jobs help out with classes and are given by the university. From what I understand RA jobs are funded by research grants and are given out at the discretion of faculty members. Typically the pay is supposed to be all your tuition and fees and a stipend to help make ends meet. The size of the stipends depends on who you are and who you are working for from what I hear. I know a guy who got into a Phd program at UCLA and according to him, he would get expelled if he got a job because of the amount of money they are giving him. I don't know if that includes full time and part time jobs, excludes jobs at the university, or any other possible technicalities.

I don't know anything about Cambridge but I imagine it would be difficult to get into.

This is all from my own personal research and not from experience. I could be wrong but this is what I understand to be true.

Note that this is entirely advice for a US PhD. The UK system is not the same, the main differences being that you are not normally required to take any courses, are expected to finish within 4 years and, if paid by a studentship, the stipend will be the same regardless of where you go and who you work with (with the exception of a bit more cash if you live in london). You aren't (normally) expected to teach for this stipend and, if you are, it is helping out in a few example classes per week, and nothing like the amount of teaching that US grad students do.
 

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