Photon Entanglement: Identifying & Using an Entangled Pair

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The discussion revolves around the identification and practical use of entangled photon pairs generated through a Parametric Down Converter (PDC). Participants explore the mechanisms of photon emission, methods for associating entangled photons, and the measurement of their shared quantum states, touching on both theoretical and experimental aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the process of using a PDC to generate entangled photon pairs, noting that a violet photon can "split" into two red photons, each with half the energy.
  • There are questions about how to identify specific entangled photon pairs among many emitted photons, with suggestions that timing and intensity adjustments can aid in this process.
  • One participant mentions that the pair of photons must be detected within a specific coincidence time window to be considered entangled, typically around 10 nanoseconds.
  • It is proposed that the angle at which the split photons veer off can help distinguish them from other emitted photons.
  • Participants discuss the use of Bell tests, specifically the CHSH inequality, to check the fidelity of detected pairs, with typical S values mentioned as being above 2 for better quality.
  • There are inquiries about how to measure the shared quantum state of the entangled photons and the implications of state collapse upon observation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and considerations for identifying and measuring entangled photons, but no consensus is reached on the best approach or the implications of state collapse.

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Limitations include the dependence on timing adjustments for photon travel distances and the specific conditions under which entanglement is verified. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of practical applications of entangled photons.

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In this video how are the entangled photons later used and actually identified as an entangled pair amongst billions of others.

Also does he really mean the photon is split or is the quantised energy split with half frequencies?
 
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He is using a "Parametric Down Converter" (PDC). So if you send violet photons (400nm) into this PDC
and all goes well you get two deep red photons coming out. The violet photon "splits" into two red photons, each with half the energy.

The photon pairs that are entangled are most readily identified as the red ones coming from the device. So if you put a filter on the output that blocks all violet photons, all of the photons emitted from the device will be the entangled ones.
 
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.Scott said:
He is using a "Parametric Down Converter" (PDC). So if you send violet photons (400nm) into this PDC
and all goes well you get two deep red photons coming out. The violet photon "splits" into two red photons, each with half the energy.

The photon pairs that are entangled are most readily identified as the red ones coming from the device. So if you put a filter on the output that blocks all violet photons, all of the photons emitted from the device will be the entangled ones.
Thanks. But how do you associate 2 entangled photons out of the whole bucket load of entangled photons. And how do they measure the shared quantum state of 2 entangled photons and put it to practical use once there is a state collapse from observation?
 
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Thanks. But how do you associate 2 entangled photons out of the whole bucket load of entangled photons.
The pair of photons will be emitted at the same time. If you need to "associate" them, one way is to dim the light intensity down to slow the average rate that the photons are emitted. If the time between photon pairs is long enough (say about a nanosecond), then you are able to detect and count individual photons.

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And how do they measure the shared quantum state of 2 entangled photons and put it to practical use once there is a state collapse from observation?
If demonstrating the Bell inequality is considered a "practical use", then direct each photon from the pair to a separate polarization detector. The entire set up is described here: Bell Inequality Test
 
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Thanks. But how do you associate 2 entangled photons out of the whole bucket load of entangled photons. And how do they measure the shared quantum state of 2 entangled photons and put it to practical use once there is a state collapse from observation?
Just to add to @.Scott ‘s correct answer: the pair is entangled if they are detected within a specific coincidence time window, let’s say 10 nanoseconds. Note that the timing is adjusted for the relative length each one travels. Commonly in normal situations, only one pair is seen in any time window regardless of laser intensity because only 1 in perhaps 10 million down converts.

In many PDC setups, the split photons veer off at a slight angle while the rest go straight ahead. That makes it possible to distinguish them as well.

The fidelity of the detected pairs is checked by performing a Bell test. A common version is called a CHSH inequality which yields an S value which must be above 2, higher means better quality. Typical values are 2.4 and have experimental accuracy to 4 or more standard deviations.

Once you have a good source, you can perform other experiments.
 
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