Photon Scattering: Find Wavelength of Incident Photon

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The problem involves photon scattering from a free proton at rest, specifically determining the wavelength of the incident photon that results in a 10% change in wavelength after scattering.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the Compton scattering formula but encounters difficulties in calculating the correct wavelength. Some participants question the values used in the calculations, particularly the mass of the particle involved in the scattering.

Discussion Status

The discussion has identified a potential error regarding the mass of the particle used in the calculations. Participants are exploring the implications of this error and its effect on the results.

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The problem is constrained by the requirement to find the wavelength based on a specified percentage change and involves specific constants related to photon and proton properties.

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Homework Statement


A photon scatters in the backward direction ([tex]\theta[/tex]= 180) from a free proton that is initially at rest.

What must the wavelength of the incident photon be if it is to undergo a 10.0% change in wavelength as a result of the scattering?

Homework Equations



[tex]\lambda[/tex]'-[tex]\lambda[/tex] = (h/mc)(1-cos([tex]\theta[/tex]))

where the left side is the difference between scattered and incidence wavelengths.

The Attempt at a Solution



This seemed like a pretty straightforward problem. Since the photon undergoes a 10% change in wavelength, 1.1[tex]\lambda[/tex] = [tex]\lambda[/tex]'. Therefore .1[tex]\lambda[/tex] = (h/mc)(1-cos([tex]\theta[/tex])). Multiply by 10 and evaluate the cosine, and you get [tex]\lambda[/tex] = 20h/mc. However, when I substitute values into this and evaluate it I get the wrong answer. I have absolutely no clue what I am doing wrong here. This shouldn't be a difficult problem, but for some reason I am not getting the correct answer. Help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Hey,

Could you post a bit more of the working, as in the actual values you're putting into evaluate it? & the answer if you have it.
 
Hey,

Could you post a bit more of the working, as in the actual values you're putting into evaluate it? & the answer if you have it.

Sure. Here's my work:

[tex]\lambda[/tex]'-[tex]\lambda[/tex] = (h/mc)(1-cos[tex]\theta[/tex])

1.1[tex]\lambda[/tex]-[tex]\lambda[/tex] = (1 - cos180)(h/mc)

.1[tex]\lambda[/tex] = 2h/mc

[tex]\lambda[/tex] = 20h/mc = 20 * (6.626 * 10^-34)/(9.109 * 10^-31)(3.00 * 10^8) = .04852 nm
 
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?
 
Hi Fizzicist,

You used the mass of an electron, but in this problem the scattering is from a proton.
 
d'oh! haha...thanks...


solved.
 

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