Photon Wavelength: Particle or Wave?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of photons, specifically addressing the question of how photons, defined as particles, can exhibit a wavelength. Participants explore the concept of wave-particle duality and the implications of quantum field theory on the classification of photons.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how photons, defined as particles, can have a wavelength and suggests a possible analogy to sound waves.
  • Another participant asserts that according to modern quantum field theory, photons are neither particles nor waves, highlighting that they can exhibit behaviors characteristic of both in different experimental contexts.
  • A later reply reiterates the idea that photons display both particle-like and wave-like behaviors, but emphasizes that these behaviors are mutually exclusive and cannot be observed simultaneously.
  • One participant introduces the term 'quantum' to describe objects like photons that exhibit both particle and wave characteristics, referring to them as bundles of energy.
  • Another participant cautions that while photons can exhibit wave-like and particle-like properties, these characteristics are mutually exclusive in observation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of photons, with some agreeing on the concept of wave-particle duality while others argue against it, stating that photons are neither. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of photon behavior and the limitations of traditional classifications, indicating that the definitions of particles and waves may not fully capture the nature of photons as described by quantum field theory.

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I understand that electromagnetic radiation is a photon. But one thing that is continuing to bug me is the question how does a photon, which is defined as a particle not a wave, have a wavelength? Do photons travel as packets in some sort of a compression type wave similar to sound?
 
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According to modern quantum field theory the photon is neither a particle nor a wave.

But there a situations (experiments) where we observe photons with a behavior as if they were particles. And there are (other) situations were we observe photons with a behavior as if they were waves.

Both behaviors are mutually exclusive, so the common term wave-particle-duality and the explanation that they are both is missleading. They a neither.
 
tom.stoer said:
According to modern quantum field theory the photon is neither a particle nor a wave.

But there a situations (experiments) where we observe photons with a behavior as if they were particles. And there are (other) situations were we observe photons with a behavior as if they were waves.

Both behaviors are mutually exclusive, so the common term wave-particle-duality and the explanation that they are both is missleading. They a neither.

I think I've heard of this. Is this classification of an object displaying qualities of both a particle and a wave (such as a photon) a 'quantum'? Like a bundle of energy.
 
Yes, it's 'quantum'. But be carefulk: wave-like and particle-like are mutually exclusive and cannot be observed at the same time.
 

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