Physical interpretation of Lorentz invariant fermion field product?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physical interpretation of the Lorentz invariant quantity \(\bar\psi\psi\) in the context of fermion fields. Participants explore whether this quantity can be interpreted as a probability density and seek to clarify the nature of fermion fields and their associated interpretations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests interpreting \(\bar\psi\psi\) as the probability density of a fermion field.
  • Another participant counters that \(\bar\psi\psi\) is not positive, implying it cannot represent a probability density.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the physical interpretation of \(\bar\psi\psi\) and the concept of probability density in relation to fermion fields.
  • It is noted that there is no probability interpretation of fermion fields, only charge density.
  • One participant states that \(\bar\psi\psi\) transforms under Lorentz boosts like a scalar, suggesting a different perspective on its significance.
  • Participants clarify that the fermion field is an operator and does not have a probabilistic interpretation, distinguishing it from the wave function, which is a c-number function representing a quantum state.
  • There is a discussion about the correct notation for the probability density of a 1-particle wave function, with references to both \(\psi^{\dagger}\psi\) and \(\psi^{*}\psi\) in the context of scalar versus spinor fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of \(\bar\psi\psi\) as a probability density, with multiple competing views presented regarding its significance and the nature of fermion fields.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the interpretations of fermion fields and the definitions of probability density in this context. The distinction between field operators and wave functions is also a point of contention.

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Hey all!
Just a very short question: May I interpret the Lorenz invariant quantity

\bar\psi\psi

as being the probability density of a fermion field? Thanks!
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Hmm.. right. But then, what is the physical interpretation of the product above? And what is the probability density of a fermion field?
 
blue2script said:
Hmm.. right. But then, what is the physical interpretation of the product above? And what is the probability density of a fermion field?

as far as i know there is no propability interpretation of fermion fields only charge density.
 
the interpretation of \bar\psi\psi is that it transforms under lorentz boosts like a scalar.
 
blue2script said:
Hmm.. right. But then, what is the physical interpretation of the product above? And what is the probability density of a fermion field?
Fermion field is an operator, so it does not have a probabilistic interpretation. However, one should distinguish the field operator from the wave function which is a c-number function representing a quantum state. For a 1-particle wave function \psi, the probability density is
\psi^{\dagger}\psi
 
Demystifier said:
Fermion field is an operator, so it does not have a probabilistic interpretation. However, one should distinguish the field operator from the wave function which is a c-number function representing a quantum state. For a 1-particle wave function \psi, the probability density is
\psi^{\dagger}\psi

you mean \psi^{*}\psi because \psi is a scalar ? but eitherway its okay to write it with a dagger.
 
I mean dagger because psi a spinor, i.e., a 4-component wave function.
 

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