Physical Properties of Metals: Melting Point, Solubility, and Conductivity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the physical properties of metals, including their melting points, solubility in water, and electrical conductivity. Participants also compare these properties with those of covalent and ionic compounds, exploring various examples and reactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether metals generally have high melting points, noting that there is a broad range of melting points among different metals.
  • There is a claim that metals are typically insoluble in water, with some participants stating that pure metals do not dissolve significantly in water.
  • Others mention that certain metals, like sodium, can react with water, indicating that while many metals are insoluble, some may react under specific conditions.
  • Participants discuss the melting points of covalent compounds, suggesting they tend to have lower melting points compared to ionic compounds, using examples like carbon dioxide and sodium chloride.
  • There is mention of the vigorous reactions that alkali metals, such as sodium and cesium, can have with water, contrasting with the general notion of metals being insoluble.
  • One participant humorously references francium's rarity and instability in the context of its reactivity with water.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the solubility of metals in water and the reactivity of certain metals, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the properties of metals and their reactions with water depend on specific conditions and may not apply universally to all metals. The discussion includes various assumptions about the behavior of metals, covalent compounds, and ionic compounds.

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does metals has the following?

Qns. high melting point, insoluble in water, conduct electricity in solid and liquid.

may i know what's the physical properties of covalent compound?

do they have low melting point?

does ionic compound has high melting point ?

can somebody correct me? thanks lotsa. :smile:
 
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topsyturvy said:
does metals has the following?
Qns. high melting point
What does "Qns." stand for?

Metals have a very broad range of melting points. Some metals are liquid at or near room temperature, other metals have very high melting points. Then one could even consider metal alloys (mixrtures of two or more metals) and change the melting points even further.

I cannot think of any example of a pure metal being soluble in water to any significant degree.
I would say metals are insoluble in water.

One property of metals is that they conduct electricity.


Covalent bonds (by comparison to ionic bonds) have lower melting points. Take the example of Carbon Dioxide (Carbon double covalently bonded to two Oxygen atoms), which has a much lower melting point than Sodium Chloride (NaCl).
Generally, ionic compounds have fairly high melting points where as covalently bonded molecules have lower melting points.
 
mrjeffy321 said:
I cannot think of any example of a pure metal being soluble in water to any significant degree.
I would say metals are insoluble in water.

All metals either are insoluble in water or react with water (ie Na).
 
Cesium said:
All metals either are insoluble in water or react with water (ie Na).

metal will react with water in some situation, that is corrosion. Its the ionic reaction between metal, water and air. but the reaction is so slow, may be years. Generally, metal can consider does not react with water.
 
The example of the chemical reaction Cesium gave of Sodium (Na) metal reaction with water does not involve air and occurs quite quickly and spontaneously.
2Na + 2H2O --> 2NaOH + H2 + Heat
H2 + O2 + Heat --> Explosion

Placing an Alkali/Alkaline Earth metal (for example, Sodium, or even Cesium) in water produces quite a vigorous reaction to occur.
 
mrjeffy321 said:
Placing an Alkali/Alkaline Earth metal (for example, Sodium, or even Cesium) in water produces quite a vigorous reaction to occur.
Most definitely! ---> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2134266654801392897&q=braniac !
 
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Quite entertaining to say the least.

"But for some reason they wouldn’t let us have any of that [Francium]".
--And the fact that it has a half life of only about 22 minutes and there is only about 20-30 grams of it on Earth at anyone time has nothing to do with that right?
 

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