Physics 11 Speed and acceleraton

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to speed and acceleration, specifically involving a scenario where a driver must stop to avoid hitting an elephant on the road. The problem includes calculations for stopping distance based on initial speed and deceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for stopping distance, questioning the need to average the deceleration rate. Some express confusion about the relationship between initial speed, final speed, and uniform acceleration.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts of acceleration and deceleration, with some participants clarifying that for uniform deceleration, the average acceleration is equal to the instantaneous acceleration. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the calculations and assumptions made.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the implications of uniform acceleration and the definitions used in the problem. There is mention of a formula sheet that may have contributed to confusion regarding the interpretation of average rates.

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[SOLVED] Physics 11 Speed and acceleraton

Homework Statement



Linda sees an elephant dart into the road 50.0m ahead of her car while she is driving at 65km/hr. She slams on her brakes, which decelerate the car at the rate of -5.80m/s^2. Will she be able to avoid hitting the elephant? Find her stopping distance.

Answer is Yes, stopping distance is 28.1

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The Attempt at a Solution



65km/hr = 18.056m/s [tex]V_{avg}9.028[/tex]
a = v / t -5.80m/s^2 = 9.028m/s / T = 1.56 seconds
using [tex]d = v_{0}t+.5at^{2}[/tex]
d = .5(-5.80m/s^2) (2.43s^2) = 7meters
I am missing something here.

Thanks for the help on the previous question and thanks for any help for this question. Your quick response is appreciated.
 
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I seem to have found the answer, but why is it that the rate is not averaged? The rate is going down from 65 to 0. Therefore, the rate should be an average before doing the calculations. I am confused.
 
V=0
U=18M/S
A=-5.80 M/S^2

V^2=U^2+2AS
>0=324-11.6S
>S=27m

why would you average the rate?since the deceleration is uniform..u must not average
the rate.this shall lead to loss in generality of the problem.
 
physixguru said:
V=0
U=18M/S
A=-5.80 M/S^2

V^2=U^2+2AS
>0=324-11.6S
>S=27m
Careful with rounding errors.
 
anOldMan said:
I seem to have found the answer, but why is it that the rate is not averaged? The rate is going down from 65 to 0. Therefore, the rate should be an average before doing the calculations. I am confused.

By rate, do you mean acceleration? For the case of constant acceleration, average acceleration = instantaneous acceleration.
 
Thanks guys.

why would you average the rate?since the deceleration is uniform..u must not average
the rate.this shall lead to loss in generality of the problem.

This solved my question. I thought about it again and realized that I made an error. In any case, it will take me a while to wrap my mind around these questions. The deceleration is uniform and will go from 65 km/h to 0 km/h in a certain amount of time based on the rate of deceleration. The reason I was averaging the number was because of the formula sheet. It is written as
note: (change) = a triangle. I assume the triangle in front of the variable means change.
a=(change)v/(change)t

I assumed the change meant average.
 

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