Physics and Philosophy: Does Physics Need Philosophy?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether physics requires philosophy, exploring the relationship between the two fields. Participants engage in defining the terms and implications of this relationship, with a focus on theoretical physics, the utility of philosophy in scientific inquiry, and the perceptions of both philosophers and physicists.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that physics does need philosophy, suggesting that science is a subset of philosophy.
  • Others question the utility of philosophy, stating it is only useful if it has experimental consequences, otherwise it may be seen as a waste of time.
  • A participant cites a quote from R.P. Feynman to imply that philosophy may not be directly beneficial to scientists.
  • There is a viewpoint that theoretical physics is largely philosophical, involving ideas and imagination that may not lead to empirical outcomes.
  • Some participants express frustration with the lack of depth in the initial question and call for more substantial arguments or context.
  • Concerns are raised about the definitions and roles of philosophers and theoretical physicists, with a suggestion that many may not understand these roles well.
  • One participant references forum rules that restrict discussions on philosophy, indicating a tension between the topic and community guidelines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the necessity and relevance of philosophy to physics, with no consensus reached. Some find value in philosophical inquiry, while others dismiss it as irrelevant or unproductive.

Contextual Notes

Participants have differing interpretations of what constitutes philosophy and its role in scientific practice, leading to potential misunderstandings and disagreements about the definitions involved.

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Does Physics need Philosophy?
 
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Define ”need”.
 
“The philosophy of science is as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.” - R.P. Feynman
 
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Mohammed Alqadhi said:
Does Physics need Philosophy?

This is lazy.

You should present your own arguments, or at the very least, reveal the impetus for asking such a question. Otherwise, you are simply asking the rest of us to do the work, while you sit back after writing just a 4-word post.

A simple search would have revealed a plethora of results, including this interview with Lawrence Krauss:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...made-philosophy-and-religion-obsolete/256203/

Other than that, I’m too lazy to type anymore to feed this thread.

Zz.
 
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Mohammed Alqadhi said:
Does Physics need Philosophy?

For me, Philosophy is useful only if it has experimental consequence.. without this... Philosophy is just waste of time.
 
Theoretical physics (for example) is mostly philosophy, I think.
All those ideas, thoughts, and imagination which might never turn out.
 
Ivan Samsonov said:
Theoretical physics (for example) is mostly philosophy, I think.

This is silly. What exactly do you think "Philosophy" means?

You have just insulted both theorists and philosophers.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
You have just insulted both theorists and philosophers

I apologise, I meant no insulting.
 
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ISamson said:
I apologise, I meant no insulting.
A good way of avoiding that is to make sure you know what you are talking about before commenting. You also did not answer ZZ's question. What do you think philosophers do? I would also like to add a question: What do you think theoretical physicists do?
 
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Mohammed Alqadhi said:
Does Physics need Philosophy?
Like a fish needs a bicycle...
 
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Orodruin said:
What do you think philosophers do?

That's a good question and one that I touched on a bit in another thread. I don't believe that most people have any idea what philosophers do nor what philosophy actually is. I know I don't.
 

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