Physics & Astronomy Majors: Job Market & Med School

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The discussion centers around the job market prospects for physics and astronomy majors, particularly in relation to pursuing a medical career. Participants explore the viability of career options available to graduates in these fields and the implications of choosing between a path in medicine versus continuing in physics and astronomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the job market for physics and astronomy majors, questioning whether pursuing med school is a better option.
  • Another participant argues that physics and astronomy graduates are highly employable due to their diverse skill set, which includes knowledge in various fields such as programming and numerical analysis.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that physics graduates can apply for many entry-level jobs, including those in finance, and suggests that job availability depends on the specificity of the job sought.
  • One participant shares their experience of working in investment banking, noting the applicability of physics equations to financial modeling, and mentions the advantage of graduating with a physics Ph.D. without debt.
  • A participant questions how one can graduate with zero debt from graduate school, indicating a lack of clarity on funding options for advanced degrees.
  • Another participant advises following one's passion and critiques parental perspectives on job prospects, emphasizing the commitment required for a medical career versus the flexibility offered by a physics degree.
  • Concerns are raised about the current job market in astronomy, with a mention of a data analysis opportunity due to an increase in astronomical data, though the long-term career prospects in science are viewed as more problematic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the job market for physics and astronomy majors, with some asserting strong employability while others raise concerns about specific career paths. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice between pursuing a career in medicine or continuing in physics and astronomy.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and anecdotal evidence regarding job prospects and educational paths, but there is no consensus on the long-term viability of careers in physics or astronomy versus medicine.

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I am a current undergrad double majoring in physics and astronomy (physics B.A. and astronomy B.S.) and am on an astronomy research team as well. I have a passion for astrophysics (as you can tell my college does not offer an astrophysics major), but my parents want me to go to med school, which is still possible, as I am on track for that as well. They tell me there simply isn't a great job market for those majors. Is this true? What job opportunities are there for astronomy and physics majors? Am I really beter off going to med school? Thanks.
 
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seunglee said:
I have a passion for astrophysics (as you can tell my college does not offer an astrophysics major),
Do you know the 'difference' between astronomy and astrophysics? :smile: There is one, but many don't bother making any sort of distinction any more.

seunglee said:
but my parents want me to go to med school, which is still possible, as I am on track for that as well.
..Do you want to go to med school? There isn't a worse reason to do it than 'because someone else wants me to'. It's your life and your career - sure, make sure that you're making informed decisions and do your research but taking a route you're simply not interested in, particularly with something like medicine, is a recipe for disaster.

seunglee said:
They tell me there simply isn't a great job market for those majors. Is this true?
No, not in the slightest. Physics (and so astronomy) majors are extremely employable. The good thing about physics is that you'll touch a bit of many different fields. An undergraduate physicist knows a little bit about a lot of things - you'll learn mechanical, electrical, materials subjects and do things like programming, numerical analysis, modelling. The skillset you come out with from a degree like that is excellent. This means that physics graduates are in demand in lots of different industries. For instance, a physics (and astronomy) major can usually apply to all of the same entry level jobs as engineering graduates, on top of the physics focussed entry jobs. Then there are things like finance where physics graduates are sought-after. That said, the job market is a funny thing - if you're looking for something extremely specific then clearly you'll have a hard time getting it. But if you're looking for a job, then physics will give you many options in lots of different areas.

seunglee said:
Am I really beter off going to med school? Thanks.

That's a question you need to ask yourself. Why would you go to med school? If the question is "if I continue with physics and astronomy, will I find myself unemployable for the rest of my life?" then no, you won't. If you have a physics degree, then you'll find that if you want a job, you can get one.

Also, read this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=240792
 
seunglee said:
They tell me there simply isn't a great job market for those majors. Is this true? What job opportunities are there for astronomy and physics majors? Am I really beter off going to med school? Thanks.

I ended up working for an investment bank on Wall Street. It turns out that the equations that describe the diffusion of radiation in a star happen to be exactly the same equations that you use to model stock prices.

The other good thing about getting a physics Ph.D. is that you leave graduate school with zero debt. This means that unlike med school, where you have to end up being a doctor in order to pay off your loans, you have a lot more flexibility as to what you want to do with your physics degree.
 
How do you leave graduate school with zero debt? I just started out in undergraduate school so I am a long ways off. I plan to continue through to a Master's and possible a Ph.D in Physics.
 
Follow your passion is always good advice IMHO.

In my experience parents' ideas about longterm job prospects and what is suitable for their son/daughter are always wrong. For medicine you need real hard commitment for a lifetime and will not get through the course and early years without it although the financial rewards are finally better so is question of values.

There are these transferable general skills given by training in physics/astrophysics. Though presumably the banking sector is not going to be all what it was.

I am told that modern astronomical observations techniques have given a glut of data and there are not enough people to analyse and make sense of it, so a certain opportunity is there, at least for a Ph. D. for interesting work, though career in the science afterwards is more problematic.
 

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