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Evo
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Wow, I didn't feel a thing!
Thanks Greg!
Thanks Greg!
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Greg---I'm thinking it may be my system, settings, a program, or firewall--but it still seems to have started about the same time as the 'partnering' with SA. It's 'crashed' three times today already. I can't get a 'good' reading on it as when it crashes, as the info is lost (not saved when I have to shut down and restart). But, one thing comes up, is that the PF website is trying to scan different ports, attempting connection requests to ports, and even a Rst attack to a port(I haven't looked that up yet).
Does any of that make sense? Could all of that be that Java script?
Does any of that make sense? Could all of that be that Java script?
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rewebster said:But, one thing comes up, is that the PF website is trying to scan different ports, attempting connection requests to ports, and even a Rst attack to a port(I haven't looked that up yet).
Does any of that make sense?
No it doesn't make sense. What firewall are you using? It deletes the log when you restart?
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Outpost --the free version
well, it doesn't seem to 'record' the problem for the crash anyway
but this (PF) site is the only site that I have trouble with
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under the "attacks detection" tab, I get these:
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(4585) TCP(4584)
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(4585)
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(4584)
5/9/08 9:46:09 AM Rst attack 75.126.60.30 -> 75.126.60.30
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(2632) TCP(2633)
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(2632)
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(2633)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(1600) TCP(1601)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(1600)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(1601)
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I really think its Java---Java is a strange bird that 'gets' into the computer---like quicktime, and flash--and wants to do what it wants without much controls by the user (me)
well, it doesn't seem to 'record' the problem for the crash anyway
but this (PF) site is the only site that I have trouble with
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under the "attacks detection" tab, I get these:
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(4585) TCP(4584)
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(4585)
5/9/08 10:39:29 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(4584)
5/9/08 9:46:09 AM Rst attack 75.126.60.30 -> 75.126.60.30
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(2632) TCP(2633)
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(2632)
5/9/08 9:40:26 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(2633)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Port scanned 75.126.60.30 TCP(1600) TCP(1601)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(1600)
5/9/08 9:21:01 AM Connection request 75.126.60.30 TCP(1601)
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I really think its Java---Java is a strange bird that 'gets' into the computer---like quicktime, and flash--and wants to do what it wants without much controls by the user (me)
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I have to believe that is the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is. None of those ports are open for outbound traffic.
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OK, but...----please, paraphrase number 1
and,
"the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is."
and,
"the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is."
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rewebster said:OK, but...----please, paraphrase number 1
and,
"the IP being spoofed by whoever the "Attacker" is."
A hacker can mask their IP and make it look like it coming from somewhere else.
rewebster
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but when I put in "75.126.62.146" I get "About Apache HTTP Server"---not the PF webpage---when I put in 75.126.60.30, I get a varied form of PF-----so what is the IP address of PF supposed to be?
and is there a way I can find out where these 'attacks' are coming from if they aren't coming from maybe the java requests on PF?
and is there a way I can find out where these 'attacks' are coming from if they aren't coming from maybe the java requests on PF?
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75.126.62.146 is our machine IP, if attacks were coming from our machine that is the IP you'd see. 75.126.60.30 is the alias IP attached to PF's account. You'll have to speak with the firewall software support for more information on detection.
rewebster
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I guess I still don't know what you mean by "75.126.60.30 is the alias IP attached to PF's account. "
are you saying that that IP (75.126.60.30) has nothing to do with PF, or that it is like a subaccount that is still part of PF, that someone other than PF is behind it, or what?
are you saying that that IP (75.126.60.30) has nothing to do with PF, or that it is like a subaccount that is still part of PF, that someone other than PF is behind it, or what?
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rewebster said:I guess I still don't know what you mean by "75.126.60.30 is the alias IP attached to PF's account. "
are you saying that that IP (75.126.60.30) has nothing to do with PF, or that it is like a subaccount that is still part of PF, that someone other than PF is behind it, or what?
75.126.60.30 is PF's IP, but there can be unlimited IPs for accounts on a machine. Someone can't attack you from 75.126.60.30 because 75.126.60.30 points to a web account. It's like saying someone is attacking you from a folder on a machine. That doesn't make sense. If someone was attacking you from my machine, it would show the machine IP instead of an IP linked to a folder.
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Without getting into the 'exact account' , could the problem be that I have 'just about' all ads blocked, and not to even show, on just about all web pages (including the PF) then?
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rewebster said:Without getting into the 'exact account' , could the problem be that I have 'just about' all ads blocked, and not to even show, on just about all web pages (including the PF) then?
I don't see why that would cause this problem.
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then, some account in the 75.126.60.30 IP is the problem with MY computer---it doesn't sound like it's widespread-----maybe that account just wants to put a cookie in (?).
I thought it may be something related to why my computer (and several others) crashes when we try to use the chat room (java/flash? related, again, maybe) and can't do chat
Any idea on how I can pinpoint it?
I thought it may be something related to why my computer (and several others) crashes when we try to use the chat room (java/flash? related, again, maybe) and can't do chat
Any idea on how I can pinpoint it?
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rewebster said:then, some account in the 75.126.60.30 IP is the problem with MY computer---it doesn't sound like it's widespread-----maybe that account just wants to put a cookie in (?).
I thought it may be something related to why my computer (and several others) crashes when we try to use the chat room (java/flash? related, again, maybe) and can't do chat
Any idea on how I can pinpoint it?
The chat uses flash. I don't think I can help you any further. But I'm quite sure it's not coming from PF.
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I've changed just about every setting and my computer is still crashing only when on PF. I'm thinking it still may be a rare complaint with others, but I wonder if it could be that java script that was added. Do you know what java settings could be tweaked on mine, or is it necessary on PF pages for it to be there, any ideas?
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rewebster said:I've changed just about every setting and my computer is still crashing only when on PF. I'm thinking it still may be a rare complaint with others, but I wonder if it could be that java script that was added. Do you know what java settings could be tweaked on mine, or is it necessary on PF pages for it to be there, any ideas?
Why don't you just turn java off and see if that fixes the problem?
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OK--tried it for a while----it seems to be working on the PF with 'things' turn off----of course, everything thing else on other sites don't work now though--from youtube on---I don't think there's a setting on win98se to set preferences on each site
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One somewhat tedious solution is to disable scripting at medium security level, and add all the sites to the "trusted sites" level where you want to have java enabled.
rewebster
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thanks---I guess there's always a solution (one way or another)
Evo
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You're on Windows 98?rewebster said:OK--tried it for a while----it seems to be working on the PF with 'things' turn off----of course, everything thing else on other sites don't work now though--from youtube on---I don't think there's a setting on win98se to set preferences on each site
Well, there's your problem. Are you able to run Flash v9?
rewebster
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flash version WIN 9,0,124,0
OK--evo---here--- you can give me a couple more of the "
's" when I tell you that I've never owned a cell phone or own a DVD player either (I guess I may deserve them)---I might as well through in I didn't own a TV for 18 years either.
Couple things I do notice:
I still get some "nexus" something or another loading or trying to load; and, I get an error message:
line: 109
char: 1
error: Object expected
code: 0
URL: https://www.physicsforums.com/index.php
if those mean anything
OK--evo---here--- you can give me a couple more of the "
's" when I tell you that I've never owned a cell phone or own a DVD player either (I guess I may deserve them)---I might as well through in I didn't own a TV for 18 years either.Couple things I do notice:
I still get some "nexus" something or another loading or trying to load; and, I get an error message:
line: 109
char: 1
error: Object expected
code: 0
URL: https://www.physicsforums.com/index.php
if those mean anything
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Yikes, you still have the nexus skin? I thought that was disabled a while ago. This is weird.
At the bottom left corner of this page, do you see an option to switch skins?
PS: When did you last clear your cache?
At the bottom left corner of this page, do you see an option to switch skins?
PS: When did you last clear your cache?
rewebster
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no---in the 'status bar' just above the task bar, it shows the loading process, any errors, which zone, etc.-----I can pick up the errors there, and watch the 'loading process'---it 'hangs' a little sometimes trying to load some 'nexus' 'something'--I can't tell, though, what exactly it is trying to load.
I've got a great little 'cleaning' program called CCleaner that cleans out everything and I do it often.
I just checked again, this time the 'error' in on line:117
it may be specifically on this sub-forum thread
on the GD the error in on line:121
on the 'main' page is where the error in on line 109
All this still may be specific to my machine though
I've got a great little 'cleaning' program called CCleaner that cleans out everything and I do it often.
I just checked again, this time the 'error' in on line:117
it may be specifically on this sub-forum thread
on the GD the error in on line:121
on the 'main' page is where the error in on line 109
All this still may be specific to my machine though
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'nexus' is not on my machine---that's coming from the server
When I clean my 'cache' , I even delete the system folders that are created by windows in the cache
When I clean my 'cache' , I even delete the system folders that are created by windows in the cache
Evo
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rew, when my computer messed up a few weeks ago, I used my old Win 98 computer until I got a replacement and had the same issues with viewing the site.
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I've heard that XP and Vista are "at times" more forgiving
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