Physics for Newbies - Basics, Colleges, Careers & Beyond

  • Context: Undergrad 
  • Thread starter Thread starter TARSIER
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Physics
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around fundamental concepts in physics, particularly focusing on spacetime, dimensions of the universe, the nature of light, and the relationship between physics and philosophy. Participants also explore career paths in physics and seek resources for learning the basics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the nature of spacetime and its dimensions, expressing confusion about its meaning and implications.
  • Another participant explains Einstein's theory of relativity and how it leads to the concept of spacetime, noting that it merges space and time into a four-dimensional framework.
  • Questions arise regarding whether two observers moving at the same speed share the same spacetime and how time is perceived differently by observers in different inertial frames.
  • There is a discussion about how light behaves, including its mass and its classification as a particle, and how this relates to wave-particle duality.
  • Participants express curiosity about quantum computing and its purpose, seeking clarification on its relevance to physics.
  • Philosophical connections to physics are mentioned, with one participant expressing interest in exploring this relationship further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of spacetime and inertial frames, but there remains some confusion and differing interpretations regarding the implications of these concepts, particularly in relation to time perception and the nature of light.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of spacetime, the nature of light, and the relationship between physics and philosophy. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the specifics of quantum computing and its relevance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students interested in physics, individuals exploring career options in the field, and those seeking to understand foundational concepts in physics and their philosophical implications.

TARSIER
Messages
28
Reaction score
0
I am a sophmore in H.S. and would like to learn the basics of physics and physicists. What are some good physics colleges? How much do physicists make? Do you have to teach in a university as a physics career? Where can I learn more about basic physics? My main question about physics are: What is space-time? I read a little of Stephen Hawking A Brief History of Time and I could not understand exactly what space-time was. Also, how many dimensions of the universe are there, how do they interact or correlate, and what are their purposes? Does light have mass? If so, is it the lightest particle? Is it a particle? Does this correspond with the Wave Particle Duality? If not, how does light bend? Another question of mine is quantum computing. What is all this about? What is the purpose?

Please answer my questions. I would love to learn as much as I can about physics.

Also, is there a relationship between physics and philosophy? I really enjoy philosophy.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to the MKaku and Physics Forums, tarsier!

Your career questions would be better answered down on the physics board, where they have real physicists who can give you the scoop.

I'll try to clue you in on spacetime.

When Einstein discovered his special theory of relativity in 1905, he saw that people who were in motion relative to each other would see each others lengths shortened and each others clocks slowed. This is because the speed of light would be the same for both of them. Their speeds would NOT add with the light speed in the way you would think, but each of them would measure the SAME speed of light.

Einstein wrote down linear equations for the length of one in the coordinates of the other and for the time. Each equation had two terms, one for the observed length and the other for the observed time. So each of the length and time of one observer was a function of the length and time of the other. You couln't separate length from time, as Newton had assumed, because they always varied together.

A mathematician named Minkowski read Einstein's paper and declared that space and time had lost their identity and had beccome merged. He called this merged state Spacetime.

Now what is it like. It has four dimensions. three of them are our familiar three, and the other one is time. Geometrically it's a little odd because the Pythagoras theorem has negative signs in it, and the time coordinate is multiplied by c, the speed of light. So hypotentuse equals c-squared times t-squared MINUS x-squared minus y-squared minus z-squared..

I hope this is enough to help you with Elegant Universe which is a wonderful book. If you have any questions about this just post them. I check several times a day.
 
Im still not sure i get it

Is it that two people who are parrellel, moving at the same speed share the same space time? And then a jet who is also moving parrallel to them shares a different space time? Is time slowed for the jet? So, is space time the relationship between space and time? Is this a variation equation?
 
Is it that two people who are parrellel, moving at the same speed share the same space time?
Ignoring gravitational effects, then yes.

Is time slowed for the jet?
Depends on your frame of reference.

So, is space time the relationship between space and time?
Spacetime is the union of space and time. Spacetime incorporates space and time as facets of the same thing.
 


Originally posted by TARSIER
Is it that two people who are parrellel, moving at the same speed share the same space time? And then a jet who is also moving parrallel to them shares a different space time? Is time slowed for the jet? So, is space time the relationship between space and time? Is this a variation equation?

All three share the same spacetime. what the two who are moving parallel at the same speed share is called an inertial frame or just a frame. The requirement for to things to be in the same inertial frame is that they don't see any motion relative between them. The inertial requirement is that they aren't accelerated.

The Jet is presumably moving faster than the first two, and so it would be in a second inertial frame, provided that it wasn't accelerating.

Now here is something that gives people problems, but its's tru in relativity. Both the people in the first frame AND the jet in the second frame are entitled to regard themselves at rest. Each is entitled to say "I am at rest and the other one is moving". Of course we can guess the jet is moving but the physics doesn't know that. What Einstein said - and Galileo before him - was that physics works the same in the first frame or the second frame just as it would if it were at rest in Newton's universe.

So the question "Is time slowed in the jet?" should read, "do the two folks in the first frame see the time of the jet slowed". Yes they do. But the jet pilot measures his time as OK, and he sees the time in the first frame as slowed. And length in the direction of apparent motion is shortened to. This is the coordinated change in length and time I menrtioned in my earlier post.

The equation between the two frames is two linear equations

time_1 = A*length_2 + B*time_2
lenth_1 = -B*length_2 + A*time_2

Where A and B are certain numbers that depend on the speed between the two frames.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
2K
  • · Replies 190 ·
7
Replies
190
Views
17K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 99 ·
4
Replies
99
Views
8K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K