Physics of FRC (field-reversed configuration)

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The discussion revolves around the physics of field-reversed configurations (FRC) and their operation in creating plasma within a coil subjected to pulsed magnetic fields. Participants explore the relationship between magnetic field strength, induced currents, and plasma formation, with references to tokamaks as well.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether plasma can be created by a variable magnetic field, suggesting that high intensities are typically required for classical ionization.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the reversal of current during field changes, noting that plasma formation might not be induced by the magnetic field alone.
  • A later reply provides a description of the FRC formation process, indicating that a bias field is applied, gas is pre-ionized, and then the axial field is reversed, which raises further questions about the implications for plasma behavior.
  • One participant mentions the necessity of pulsed operation in tokamaks due to the induction of plasma current.
  • Another participant suggests that if the external field is much smaller than the plasma field, the reversal may only slightly reduce the current, implying that plasma formation may not rely solely on induction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of plasma creation and the role of induced currents in FRCs and tokamaks. There is no consensus on whether the variable magnetic field is sufficient for plasma formation or how current behaves during field reversals.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between magnetic fields and plasma behavior remain unaddressed, and the discussion includes references to specific operational details of FRCs and tokamaks that may not be universally accepted.

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Hello,

Think of a graph of the magnetic field strength B vs time in a coil, from which a pulsed current passes. The time to reach B is t_1, and the time to drop to zero again is t_1+t_2. There is gas inside the coil, and we are trying to create plasma:
The initial force applied on one electron is F and F=Eq=ma Eq/m=a=Δv/ΔtΔv=EΔt(q/m)
and since E α ΔB/Δt; EΔt α ΔB which is equal for both the increasing and the decreasing parts of the graph thus the current induced must be zero at the end.

So my question is, if no current is induced in such pulsed magnetic fields, how do field reversed configurations operate? Do they keep giving current after the pulse? Isn't it supposed to reverse the field after inducing a plasma current to form a seperatrix, that if it does so, doesn't the plasma get affected during the reversal? My question applies also for tokamaks and the formation of plasma in it.

Thank you.
 
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TESL@ said:
There is gas inside the coil, and we are trying to create plasma:
Are you sure the plasma is created by the variable magnetic field? I didn't see that before and I would be surprised if you could do that. Even with pulsed lasers, you need very high intensities to make a "classical" ionization (based on the field, not on the absorption of individual photons).

Tokamaks have that issue with the induction of a plasma current, and at least ITER will have to be pulsed for that reason.
 
I had never really thought about it, that it seemed to be the only viable option to me. Even though plasma is created by other means, it still has to change the direction of current when the field is reversed. I am not sure.

edit: If the external field is much smaller than that of the plasma itself, reversal might only reduce the current a bit, which means the plasma is not formed by induction.

edit2: "A Field-Reversed Configuration is formed in a cylindrical coil which produces an axial magnetic field. First, an axial bias field is applied, then the gas is pre-ionized, which "freezes in" the bias field, finally the axial field is reversed. At the ends, reconnection of the bias field and the main field occurs, producing closed field lines. The main field is raised further, compressing and heating the plasma and providing a vacuum field between the plasma and the wall." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-reversed_configuration)
Now, this makes me confused.
 
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Anyone to help me out?
 
Could someone please move the thread back to Nuclear Physics, where people might know more about FRC?
 
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OK, I figured it out myself. The operation of induction coils apply.
 

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