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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a participant seeking to transfer from a UK university to Canadian universities for further studies in physics. The participant is looking for advice on how to narrow down a list of 22 potential universities based on their academic credentials and the complexities of GPA conversion between different grading systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • The participant has completed two years of undergraduate physics at Imperial College London and is now considering transferring to Canadian universities.
  • Some participants suggest checking the admission requirements for each university, noting that many require a minimum GPA of 2.0-2.5 for transfer students.
  • Others argue that competitive schools like McGill may require a higher GPA for transfer students, potentially above 3.5.
  • There is discussion about the importance of comparing personal scores and GPA against those of other applicants to gauge acceptance chances.
  • The participant expresses confusion about converting Canadian GPAs to the British grading system and seeks assistance with this conversion.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the University of Toronto's policy on transferring credits for students who have studied more than two years at their previous institution.
  • Some participants provide links to resources for GPA conversion but express skepticism about their applicability to the participant's situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that GPA requirements vary by university and that checking individual university websites is essential. However, there is disagreement regarding the specific GPA thresholds and the implications of transferring credits, particularly concerning the University of Toronto's policies.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of GPA conversion between Canadian and British systems, as well as the specific admission requirements for each university, which may not be uniformly understood or applied.

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Hi, I completed two years of my undergraduate Physics study at Imperial College London (2009-2011). Since then, I have interrupted my studies until 2013 due to financial difficulties. Now, I'm looking to transfer to Canadian universities and I have a list of 22 universities which I want to narrow down based on my academic credentials, but I'm getting nowhere. Can anyone here please help me out?

Here are the list of universities:

1. University of Toronto
2. U of British Columbia
3. McGill University
4. U of Waterloo
5. Simon Fraser U
6. York Uni
7. Queen’s Uni
8. U of Western Ontario
9. U of Ottawa
10. U of Guelph
11. Mcmaster uni
12. Carleton Uni
13. Concordia uni
14. Ryerson Uni
15. Brock Uni
16. Wilfrid Laurier Uni
17. Laurentian uni
18. Trent Uni
19. Bishop’s uni
20. Trinity western uni
21. Ontario institute of technology
22. Capilano uni

And here's my academic credentials:

O levels: 8 A's
A levels: A's in Physics, Chemistry, Maths, Further Maths, Additional Further Maths

University first year: average 88.6%
1. Mathematics I - 97%
2. Mechanics and Relativity - 93%
3. Electricity and Magnetism - 94%
4. Structure of Matter, Vibrations and Waves, Quantum Physics - 98%
5. Professional Skills - 78%
6. Laboratory and Computing I - 69%
7. Project I - 59%
8. Mathematical Analysis - 95%

University second year: average 68.9%
1. Quantum Mechanics - 74%
2. Thermodynamics and Statistical Physics - 64%
3. Electrons in Solids and Applications of Quantum Mechanics - 63%
4. Electromagnetism and Optics - 83%
5. Mathematics and Statistics of Measurement - 73%
6. Laboratory and Computing II - 66%
7. Professional Skills II -82%
8. Mathematics Methods - 51%
 
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just to clarify your question. are you wondering what school you would get accepted into based on your marks?
 
cause i know most universities require a minimum gpa of 2.0-2.5 to transfer after two years depending on what school. if your gpa is above 3.0 i don't think there will be a problem getting accepted into any school
 
you should definitely take a look at all the schools you are interested in and check out their admission requirements and look under international students
 
jimmyly said:
cause i know most universities require a minimum gpa of 2.0-2.5 to transfer after two years depending on what school. if your gpa is above 3.0 i don't think there will be a problem getting accepted into any school

I wouldn't say this is the case for undergrad. For example, McGill is one of the top 5 colleges in Canada as far as I know... you can probably compare it to Harvard, and high school GPAs are expected to be above 3.5. Transfer students will need a higher GPA because it'll be more competitive.

I would suggest to go to a site like the Princeton Review or a Canadian version of College Board and go through all the universities you're interested in, rank them in terms of how your own scores, grades and GPA compare to other students, and then start contacting schools for more information.
 
seaofghosts said:
I wouldn't say this is the case for undergrad. For example, McGill is one of the top 5 colleges in Canada as far as I know... you can probably compare it to Harvard, and high school GPAs are expected to be above 3.5. Transfer students will need a higher GPA because it'll be more competitive.

I would suggest to go to a site like the Princeton Review or a Canadian version of College Board and go through all the universities you're interested in, rank them in terms of how your own scores, grades and GPA compare to other students, and then start contacting schools for more information.

UBC is 1st and their requirement for transfer students is 2.0. rankings are meaningless. they are based on academic research funding. Also, they have the same requirements as every other university, i just looked at their site and it says 88% for high school students so you are right about the 3.5 gpa. Which is the same for UBC(high90s)SFU(low 90s), UVIC and others while UBC and SFU require 2.0 for transfer students
Also, i just looked up UofT and it is 60% for transfer students

regardless, to the OP i suggest you take a look at all the universities websites that interest you to find out more information on international transfers.
 
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http://www.queensu.ca/admission/apply/firstyear/requirements/general/international/England.html

to help you get started here is Queen's website for students from England. requirements is around what i stated before. 2.0 - 2.5
 
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Well, my problem is really with converting the Canadian GPA into a british grading system (where 70% of above is a first, 60% to 70% is a 2:1, etc.). I don't understand how to convert between the two. If I can do that, then that will narrow down my choice of universities. Can anyone help me with that?

Also, I heard that the University of Toronto does not allow transfer students to transfer their credits to their program of choice if they studies more than two years at their previous university. I have a problem here, because even though I only studied two years at Imperial College London, I covered a lot of the material in the third year courses at University of Toronto. Not sure if I should still apply to U of T. Any thoughts?
 
failexam said:
Well, my problem is really with converting the Canadian GPA into a british grading system (where 70% of above is a first, 60% to 70% is a 2:1, etc.). I don't understand how to convert between the two. If I can do that, then that will narrow down my choice of universities. Can anyone help me with that?

Also, I heard that the University of Toronto does not allow transfer students to transfer their credits to their program of choice if they studies more than two years at their previous university. I have a problem here, because even though I only studied two years at Imperial College London, I covered a lot of the material in the third year courses at University of Toronto. Not sure if I should still apply to U of T. Any thoughts?

In American Universities:
http://www.collegeboard.com/html/academicTracker-howtoconvert.html

It should be quite similar for Canadian schools.

BiP
 
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Bipolarity said:
In American Universities:
http://www.collegeboard.com/html/academicTracker-howtoconvert.html

It should be quite similar for Canadian schools.

This doesn't help the OP. For example, I'm sure that the British percentages *don't* convert correctly to US letter grades via this chart. (The percentages aren't even valid in the US. They indicate a sort of traditional expectation, but probably no more than a third of college-level teachers base grades on that scale. I know I don't. If I wanted to, I'd have to dumb down the material on my tests to the level where it was all about mindless memorization.)

This WP article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification links to this spreadsheet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification#cite_note-hesa-5 .

If I'm understanding correctly, it sounds like the OP's grades in the freshman year are equivalent to a "first," while his/her sophomore grades are equivalent to a 2:1. According to the spreadsheet, a first in the physical sciences put a student in the 89th percentile, while a 2:1 is 64th percentile.

Converting these percentiles to US grades is going to be very difficult, because there's so much grade inflation in the US. At some schools in the US with highly selective admissions, the majority of grades are A's.

I would suggest applying to one backup school that you're sure you can get into, one from about the middle of your list, and then as many more as you can afford to apply to at the top of the list.

You could also look for stats on how many transfer students each of these schools accept every year. I don't know about Canada, but here in the US that statistic shows a huge amount of variation. Some schools get about half their student body as transfers from community colleges, while others (e.g., Cal Tech) might accept something like 10 transfer students every year.
 
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