Planet at barycenter of a binary system.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a planet located at the barycenter of a binary star system, particularly focusing on the stability of such a configuration over long timescales, the implications for day-night cycles, and potential methods for measuring time on such a planet.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the possibility and long-term dynamical stability of a planet at the barycenter of a binary system with similar mass.
  • Another participant asserts that the system is unstable.
  • A participant raises the question of whether the planet would orbit the binary stars or be ejected from the system entirely.
  • A later reply suggests that the planet would likely enter an unstable orbit around one of the stars and eventually escape the system, referencing a simulation to explore starting parameters.
  • There is speculation about the nature of the day-night cycle on such a planet, with a suggestion that it would not have a typical night but rather a dusk/morning to daytime cycle.
  • A participant inquires about potential methods for measuring time on a planet in this scenario, particularly from a bronze age perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the stability of the system, with some asserting instability while others explore the implications of such a configuration. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the long-term fate of the planet and the specifics of its day-night cycle.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the mass similarity of the binary stars and the initial conditions of the planet's orbit that are not fully explored. The discussion also relies on simulations that may have limitations not detailed in the posts.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in celestial mechanics, binary star systems, planetary dynamics, and time measurement in hypothetical scenarios may find this discussion relevant.

vladpaln
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Say you have a binary system (with similar mass) in the following orbit
160px-Orbit1.gif


with a planet located at the barycenter, is this possible and is this a dynamically stable system (over billion of years) ??

If this system was an Earth like system would I assume correctly that it would not have a nigh but instead a dusk/morning to daytime cycle?

Does anyone have any ideas on how to measure time on such a planet (think bronze age)??
 
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It's instable.
 
Would the planet end up orbiting the binary stars or get thrown out of the system all together??
 
vladpaln said:
Would the planet end up orbiting the binary stars or get thrown out of the system all together??

It will most likely get into an unstable orbit (outside the hill sphere) around a star and than escape in the long term. You can play with the starting parameters in this simulation.
 

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