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The discussion revolves around the discovery of a planet in a triple-star system, HD 188753, which presents unique challenges to existing theories of planetary formation. Participants explore various aspects of the planet's characteristics, its orbit, and the implications of its environment with three suns.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the planet's unique environment with three suns, noting the implications for solar energy and planetary formation theories.
  • Questions arise regarding the stability of the planet's orbit, with some suggesting it will remain stable for a long time.
  • Participants discuss the planet's orbital characteristics, including its distance from the primary star and its orbital velocity, with some providing calculations.
  • There is confusion about the nature of the planet's orbit, with some participants questioning whether it orbits all three stars or just the primary one.
  • Some participants propose analogies to our solar system to help visualize the arrangement of the stars and the planet's orbit.
  • Speculation occurs regarding the potential for intelligent life on such a planet and how its environment might influence cultural aspects like religion and mythology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the planet's orbit and the dynamics of the three-star system. There are multiple competing views and ongoing questions about the nature of the gravitational interactions involved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the stability of the orbit and the gravitational dynamics of the stars remain unresolved. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and understandings of the system's configuration.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20050713/sc_space/triplesunsetplanetdiscoveredin3starsystem :cool: Awesome!

A newly discovered planet has bountiful sunshine, with not one, not two, but three suns glowing in its sky.

It is the first extrasolar planet found in a system with three stars. How a planet was born amidst these competing gravitational forces will be a challenge for planet formation theories.

"The environment in which this planet exists is quite spectacular," said Maciej Konacki from the California Institute of Technology. "With three suns, the sky view must be out of this world -- literally and figuratively."

The triple-star system, HD 188753, is located 149 light-years away in the constellation Cygnus. The primary star is like our Sun, weighing 1.06 solar masses. The other two stars form a tightly bound pair, which is separated from the primary by approximately the Sun-Saturn distance.

"The pair more or less acts as one star," Konacki told SPACE.com. The combined mass of the close pair is 1.63 solar masses.

Using the 10-meter Keck I telescope in Hawaii, Konacki noticed evidence for a planet orbiting the primary star. This newfound gas giant is slightly larger than Jupiter and whirls around its central star in a 3.5-day orbit. A planet so close to its star would be very hot.
 
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Cygnus is one of my very favorite constellations! Maybe I can con my friends U of MI to see if we can find it! There scope my not be powerful enough, but it will give me a good reason to bug them. :-p It normally just takes a batch of chocolate chip cookies.
 
Planet with 3 suns

Abstract: Astronomers have detected a planet outside our solar system with not one, but three suns, a finding that challenges astronomers' theories of planetary formation.
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/07/14/planet.suns.reut/index.html

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Wow... there's one hell of a place for solar panels ;)
 
How long will this planet be in a stable orbit?
 
GOD__AM said:
It's already posted 8 threads below this one

Merging threads.
 
GOD__AM said:
It's already posted 8 threads below this one...https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=82177
Sorry for the dupe! :redface:

Pengwuino said:
Wow... there's one hell of a place for solar panels ;)
My thoughts exactly! :biggrin:

Gold Barz said:
How long will this planet be in a stable orbit?
From TA,
If you stood on the planet's surface, you would see three suns in sky, although its orbit centers around the main yellow star among the trio.
It will remain stable for a long time to come i guess.

-- AI
 
Anyone know how close the planet is to the main star? It says one orbit is completed in 3.5 days, and I was wondering what the relative velocity of that orbit is?
 
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orbit 6.9 million km radius
Orbital velocity 143 km/sec
 
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Janus said:
orbit 6.9 million km radius
Orbital velocity 143 km/sec

Thanks :smile:
 
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I'm having a hard time picturing that. Previous post make it sound as though the planet is in the middle of the three stars orbiting its suns. That however is unlike any kind of orbit, so its three stars are in the middle and the planet is orbiting them.

Why didn't the three stars merge to create one star when the system was forming?
 
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misskitty said:
I'm having a hard time picturing that. Previous post make it sound as though the planet is in the middle of the three stars orbiting its suns. That however is unlike any kind of orbit, so its three stars are in the middle and the planet is orbiting them.

Why didn't the three stars merge to create one star when the system was forming?

The planet is orbiting very close to the largest of the stars, and the stars mutually orbit each other. (the point they orbit is located between the stars).

The planet is 6.7 million km from the star it orbits, and this star is about 1.4 billion km from the other two stars or about 209 times further.
 
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That is very strange. So does the planet orbit all three planets at once?
 
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misskitty said:
That is very strange. So does the planet orbit all three planets at once?


The planet orbits the main star, the other 2 stars orbit the same star but much further away.

Consider our sun with a Jupiter sized planet orbiting 5 times closer than mercury. Then the other 2 stars orbit each other as they travel around the main star from a distance equivalent to saturns orbit in our system. The planet orbits between the main star and the 2 orbiting stars.
 
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It seems uncharacteristic for a star to orbit another star. I would have thought the planet would follow a figure eight pattern around all three stars. The orbit would be massive if that were the case.

~Kitty
 
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Why is it uncharacteristic? :confused:
Doesn't our moon orbit the Earth and not a figure-eight pattern around us the sun and say Jupiter?
 
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misskitty said:
It seems uncharacteristic for a star to orbit another star. I would have thought the planet would follow a figure eight pattern around all three stars. The orbit would be massive if that were the case.

~Kitty

It happens all the time, they're called binary star systems.

The planet is so close to the primary star and the other two stars are so far away, that their respective effect on the planet is very small.
 
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Man, if intellegent life could ever evolve on a planet like that I wonder how their civilization's religion and mythologies would be like.
 
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lol more then likely.."the sons of Gods"
 
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I wonder if something like this could have happened in our solar system if Jupiter had kept taking its vitamins and gained enough mass to begin internal fusion?
 

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