Planet formation vs Sun collapse

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The discussion explores why planets do not collapse into the Sun despite the initial conditions that led to their formation. It highlights that planets maintain a stable orbit due to their velocity, size, and distance, which create an equilibrium that prevents collapse. The accretion process of the Sun ceases when gas pressure equals gravitational pull, distinguishing the formation of planets from the Sun itself. Additionally, planets possess sufficient kinetic energy to maintain elliptical orbits, though they can gradually lose energy and potentially spiral into the Sun over millions of years. Overall, the stability of planetary orbits is a result of complex gravitational dynamics and energy conservation principles.
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I understand how conservation of momentum leads to planet formation and planet rotation. However, after studying this model, I have ran into a point of confusion that I cannot find the answer to:

Why don't the planets collapse into the sun just as dust particles collapsed inward via conservation of angular momentum to form the planets in the first place? What distinguishes the two situations?

My two potential theories (pardon any silly answers, I am an amateur):

* The velocity, size, distance, etc of the planets are just right that they stay in that equilibrium.
* The accretion process stopped after the sun reached some set stage. Perhaps study the stages of the sun?

Thanks in advance!
 
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The collapse in radial direction (along the disk radius) stops as soon as the velocity is sufficient to give orbits around the central mass.
The accretion process stopped after the sun reached some set stage.
Right.
The velocity, size, distance, etc of the planets are just right that they stay in that equilibrium.
"Every" orbit around a star is stable, if the planet does not hit anything (significant) on its path.
 
Hmm. I am a little confused. Some of the reading that I am doing online is showing me something more like this:

A protostar accretes mass until it reaches an equilibrium. Equilibrium can be explained in the following manner:

1. Gravity pulls gas and dust into the core.
2. The core gets hotter as gas density increases and thereby the rate of gas atom collisions increases.
3. When the gas pressure = gravity, the accretion process stops.
 
vikasagartha said:
Hmm. I am a little confused. Some of the reading that I am doing online is showing me something more like this:

A protostar accretes mass until it reaches an equilibrium. Equilibrium can be explained in the following manner:

1. Gravity pulls gas and dust into the core.
2. The core gets hotter as gas density increases and thereby the rate of gas atom collisions increases.
3. When the gas pressure = gravity, the accretion process stops.

True, but you're talking about the gas that is collapsing to form the star itself. The gas and dust that forms the planets doesn't collapse into the star.
 
vikasagartha said:
Why don't the planets collapse into the sun just as dust particles collapsed inward via conservation of angular momentum to form the planets in the first place? What distinguishes the two situations?

I forget the exact equation, but it basically depends on the kinetic energy of the planet, for which a few scenarios arive:

1) if it has too little energy it goes into the sun
2) if it's within a certain range it gains an elliptical orbit (like our planets have)
3) if it has too much energy it has a hyperbolic orbit and is flung out of the star system

and our planets have enough kinetic energy to be in the 2nd category, as planets lose energy naturally over time they move into the 1st category from the 2nd and crash into their sun. We just don't see planets like that because they would crash into the sun over the course of millions of years, although there are some examples that you'll occasionally see in the news
 
Viracocha said:
and our planets have enough kinetic energy to be in the 2nd category, as planets lose energy naturally over time they move into the 1st category from the 2nd and crash into their sun. We just don't see planets like that because they would crash into the sun over the course of millions of years, although there are some examples that you'll occasionally see in the news

Such processes take orders of magnitude longer. Our solar system has been around for over 4 billion years and we're just fine.
 
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