Playing Piano: Mastering Für Elise and More

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The discussion revolves around various piano compositions that participants enjoy playing or aspire to master, including classical pieces by Beethoven, Chopin, and Debussy, as well as popular songs like "Bohemian Rhapsody." Participants share their experiences, challenges, and recommendations for pieces suitable for different skill levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express enjoyment in mastering "Für Elise" by Beethoven, while others suggest it is relatively easy and recommend progressing to more challenging pieces like Chopin's nocturnes or Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2.
  • Chopin's Nocturnes are highlighted as favorites by multiple participants, with suggestions that they offer more room for emotional interpretation compared to Bach's more mechanical compositions.
  • Participants discuss the emotional depth of seemingly simple pieces, with examples including Beethoven's 14th and 8th Piano Sonatas and Chopin's Nocturne, Opus 72.
  • Some participants note the challenge of playing pieces like the "Moonlight Sonata," emphasizing the importance of interpretation and the differing levels of difficulty across movements.
  • Debussy's compositions are mentioned as offering a different mood and style, with recommendations for pieces like "The Sunken Cathedral" and "Claire de Lune," which are described as rewarding yet challenging.
  • Jazz and blues styles are introduced by a participant who appreciates Thelonious Monk's approach, noting the unique rhythmic challenges they present.
  • Participants share their personal experiences with practice routines and the addictive nature of playing piano regularly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on which pieces are the best to play or the appropriate progression for skill development, as participants express a variety of preferences and experiences. Some agree on the value of Chopin's nocturnes, while others emphasize different composers or styles.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of difficulty and personal interpretations of pieces, indicating that the experience of playing may differ significantly based on individual skill levels and emotional connections to the music.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to piano players of all levels looking for recommendations on pieces to learn, as well as those interested in exploring different musical styles and composers.

  • #31
jimmy p said:
I'm not sure, I got the sheet music.


That's what I meant. Sheet music.

I hate it when I forget words. :redface:
 
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  • #32
Sorry, I only know difficult pieces :blush: Or really calm ones.
You could try Beethovens Patetique 2nd movement. 3rd movement is difficult, but not pace-insane :p
 
  • #33
Monique said:
6 (!) months? :bugeye: *gulp*

I never got past reading notes and playing some simple tunes with static hands, the first two parts of Für Elise were really easy, the rest quite a bit more challenging :wink: I'll try to get my hands on Chopin..

Hmm.. monique if you haven't mastered the quick (staccato?) piece in Fur elise I would suggest you stick with this song until you can play it all the way though at least once, if only badly, before you move on to some of the more complexed pieces being suggested.

I never had formal lessons but I taught myself the intro to fur elise- it's the only piece of classical music I can play. Very graceful and flowing.
 
  • #34
Anyone here a jazz pianist? My best friend plays the piano in the school's jazz band and is fairly good at it. Right now I am trying to (slowly) memorize the piano version of Winter Wonderland (Nowak). It sounds pretty neat and if the chords are broken apart and arpeggiated, it makes it seem like your at a fancy dinner party.
 
  • #35
Yep ! I love Thelonious Sphere Monk, and I think there are very few technical difficulties to play Monk's compostition, with regards to the few notes he uses (almost never any 4 or 5 fingers chords). The difficulty lies in his ... very personal conception of rythm.

If you want to learn jazz though, you need to listen a lot of jazz, and many different artists, before you can develop your own feeling. It is yet another never-ending story.
 
  • #36
Zantra said:
Hmm.. monique if you haven't mastered the quick (staccato?) piece in Fur elise I would suggest you stick with this song until you can play it all the way though at least once, if only badly, before you move on to some of the more complexed pieces being suggested.
Yeah, I started on that :smile: but I still needed a belated birthday present for on my wishlist :redface: :wink:
 
  • #37
Monique said:
Interesting, Beethoven's name is actually dutch: Ludwig 'van Beethoven', that means everyone is writing his name wrong.

Are you serious?
 
  • #38
"van Beethoven" should thus be the right name ? Yet in France, we have that kind of name too : Charles de Gaulle. This is a bad example, but one should call him "Gaulle" or "Charles de Gaulle", not "de Gaulle". (with a few exceptions). The origine of this kind of name is historical : "John from South" you could say. You would either call him "South" or "John from South" but just "from South" would be incorrect.

Monique : do you know if the rule in dutch is to always keep the "van" particle ?
 
  • #39
Monique said:
Interesting, Beethoven's name is actually dutch: Ludwig 'van Beethoven', that means everyone is writing his name wrong

We usually just say Beethoven. I've got a family dedicated to music. My grand-aunt has won the highest norwegian prizes a musician can get, and my dad is musical teacher(amanuensis) at our Music university and is responisble for all the music in the norwegian freemasonary. So I should know ;)


Descartes said:
Finally, I think a lot of Bach's Fugues are fun to play on the piano.

His Invention 8 is great, short, educative, and easy to learn.
 
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  • #40
humanino said:
Monique : do you know if the rule in dutch is to always keep the "van" particle ?
I don't know of any rules, but I've never heard the prefixes being dropped. But at least I'm glad the American style rules are not being followed, because then it would've been Vanbeethoven :rolleyes:
 
  • #41
What's wrong with that, Ms. Vandervoet? :confused:
 

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