Please help: switching to math, good or bad

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The discussion revolves around the potential decision of a biology freshman considering a switch to mathematics at a Canadian university. Participants explore the implications of such a switch, particularly regarding the perceived strength of the math department at the current institution compared to others, and how this may affect future opportunities in graduate school.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if the individual enjoys math, they should pursue it, as delaying a switch could complicate future academic paths.
  • Another participant shares their experience at a small university, noting both advantages and disadvantages of a less renowned math department, such as accessibility to faculty and independent study opportunities versus limited course offerings.
  • Concerns are raised about whether a strong undergraduate institution is necessary for success in graduate school, with some arguing that a solid background in core math subjects and good recommendations can mitigate disadvantages.
  • Questions are posed regarding the individual's experience with proof-based math courses, emphasizing the differences between high school calculus and higher-level mathematics.
  • There is a query about the specific university the original poster is attending, with one participant expressing surprise at the characterization of the math department as "small and weak."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of the university's reputation in mathematics and the impact of switching majors. There is no consensus on whether the strength of the math department significantly affects graduate school prospects.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the importance of specific courses and experiences in mathematics, but there is uncertainty regarding the exact requirements and expectations for graduate programs in mathematics.

Who May Find This Useful

Students contemplating a major switch to mathematics, particularly those considering the implications of their undergraduate institution's reputation on future academic opportunities.

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well I'm a Biology freshman at a Canadian University.
I'm thinking of switching to math for next year, since i am really good at it.
However my school is world-renowned for biology, and has a small/weak math departement.



will students from stronger math universities be at at an advantage over me in grad school?
Does the undergrad university make a diffrence, or is it just the student's intelligence?


Please respond so that i can decide and make the proper arrangment.
 
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If you like math, you should do math. If after deciding to bio, 10 years down the road you decide that you want to switch to do math, then your road will be more difficult.

I'm a Junior, at a small university that is in no way known for it's math department. There are advantages and disadvantages to that. For example, a large part of the department knows me, independent study, and research with a professor are both pretty accessible, however, the course selection is fairly low, we only have one course in algebra, and our second course in analysis is only offered once every 2 years. There are ways to make up for things like this, for example, you could try to do an independent study (probably an excellent way to get a good letter of recommendation), or attend something like Budapest Semesters in Mathematics, which offers a wide range of upper level math classes, to supplement your curriculum.

I think that if you have a very solid background in what is expected an undergraduate would take (Algebra, Linear Algebra, Analysis, Complex Analysis, Topology, Number Theory, Probability, ...), do some research, do well on the GREs (If Canadian schools look at them, I'm not familiar), earn good grades, and get good letters of recommendation, then you shouldn't be at a significant disadvantage as compared to someone coming from an institution with a better name brand, with the possible exception if the person is coming from some place like an Ivy.

That being said, have you done any real, proofs-based math courses? Most math is quite different than what you'll see in Calculus classes and in High School, and before you up and switch, you might want to make sure it's what you really want to pursue.
 
are you at guelph? I thought that you'd be at U of T, but they don't particularly have a "small and weak" math department; at least I don't think so
 
wisvuze said:
are you at guelph? I thought that you'd be at U of T, but they don't particularly have a "small and weak" math department; at least I don't think so

I'm sorry but i'd rather not say, are you familiar with the math level of Canadian universities?
 

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