Plus-Minus Symbol In This Trig. Equation

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The discussion revolves around the handling of the plus-minus symbol in a trigonometric equation related to a calculus problem. Participants explore the implications of placing the symbol inside versus outside the arccos function, as well as the application of the Mean Value Theorem in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the placement of the plus-minus symbol in the solution, suggesting it should be inside the arccos to yield two answers that fit the domain.
  • Another participant notes that the secant is always positive in the given domain, which may justify the solution's approach of placing the plus-minus symbol outside the arccos.
  • A participant questions the application of the Mean Value Theorem, stating that the tangent at a certain point should equal the slope of the secant, which is zero in this case.
  • There is a reiteration of the importance of the Mean Value Theorem for integrals, clarifying its relevance to the discussion.
  • One participant seeks confirmation on whether their interpretation of the solution as a shortcut is correct, emphasizing that the plus-minus should have been considered after solving.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct placement of the plus-minus symbol, with differing views on whether the solution represents a shortcut or a valid approach based on the properties of the secant function.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the treatment of the secant function and its implications for the solution's validity. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the Mean Value Theorem's application.

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Hey guys,

The problem is #49 and it is a simple calculus problem, but the part that I am confused on is how the solution solves the trig. equation. In the solving, the solution brings out the plus-minus symbol and puts it outside the arccos, but I feel as if it should be inside the arccos.

I understand that putting the symbol outside solves the problem perfectly, but it seems like a shortcut. How I think it should be done is to put the plus-minus symbol inside the arcccos (it would give us two different answers) and choose the answer that fits into the domain of the problem which is (pi/4 and -pi/4). When I choose the answer that fits into the domain, I can make it positive or negative because the secant is squared.

Thanks!
 

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I suppose what isn't written in the solution is that the secant is always positive in the given domain. Hence, the solution skips checking the negative option. The plus-minus sign on the following line, however, is there for a different reason: the secant (and in turn cosine) is an even function i.e. f(x) = f(-x).
 
Admittedly, I haven't used the Mean Value Theorem in a while, but isn't the tangent at the point c supposed to equal the slope of the secant formed by the points at the ends of the interval? The slope of the secant on the function is 0. So there is only one place on the interval with a point that has a tangent line with a slope of 0.

Note the result of the solution in the jpg on the graph of the original equation.
 
thelema418 said:
Admittedly, I haven't used the Mean Value Theorem in a while, but isn't the tangent at the point c supposed to equal the slope of the secant formed by the points at the ends of the interval? The slope of the secant on the function is 0. So there is only one place on the interval with a point that has a tangent line with a slope of 0.

Note the result of the solution in the jpg on the graph of the original equation.
Note that the problem in question refers to the MVT for integrals i.e. the MVT you're suggesting is applied to the antiderivative.
 
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@da_nang, thanks! That's definitely what I missed when reading it!
 
da_nang said:
I suppose what isn't written in the solution is that the secant is always positive in the given domain. Hence, the solution skips checking the negative option. The plus-minus sign on the following line, however, is there for a different reason: the secant (and in turn cosine) is an even function i.e. f(x) = f(-x).

Just to reclarify, was I correct in my thinking and that the solution took a shortcut (the plus minus should have went inside)? A plus minus then should have been added AFTER solving and throwing out the solution outside the domain because the secant function is even.

Thanks!
 

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